Dell tries to strong arm renewals
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@scottalanmiller said:
And now they are quoting Gartner. I assume anyone that quotes Gartner has given up on having a viable product. Gartner is a scam.
I don't even know what that is.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And now they are quoting Gartner. I assume anyone that quotes Gartner has given up on having a viable product. Gartner is a scam.
I don't even know what that is.
It's a marketing company that writes white papers on behalf of sponsors. So if MailBear wants their product to be highly regarded, MailBear can't just claim it is the best. So it hires this "marketing research" firm who works very hard not to lie, but will make a report based around the strengths of the product or only research products that pale in comparison. Gartner is super high end marketing where they convince people that Gartner itself is a research firm, rather than a marketing firm, and then get crazy amounts of money for their "research."
So MangoLassi could hire them to review online IT communities for some outrageous sum they would do all kinds of real research, figure out where ML leads (in views from Panama on a Thursday evening when it rains) the market and make a report that stealthily relies on that data to make ML look good. Then they release it publicly and call it a white paper, which it is.
If you see Gartner's name on a white paper or being quoted, run away. It means very high priced people have been employed to mislead you in very, very tricky ways.
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I just received a voicemail from Citrix trying to sound like they are the HIPAA police demanding that I call him today or tomorrrow.. LOL
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@coliver said:
May want to remove identifying information at the bottom of your post. Just as a courtesy.
@Dashrender yeah, might be a good idea. People like me go looking for the offending party... just to see who they are... She might be in this list [Self Moderating] and I possibly won't point out that the one with the desert picture works at Dell SonicWALL.
I also won't point out that this person also fits the description: [Self Moderating]
So, if you heard/read anything, it wasn't from me.
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I think you're being sarcastic.. but I'm asking for confirmation.
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Yes, there was a lot of sarcasm in there.
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You should still edit her details out of your post.
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@nadnerB said:
You should still edit her details out of your post.
Nah, It's all public information.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@nadnerB said:
You should still edit her details out of your post.
Nah, It's all public information.
Ye that might be true but I'm removing the links from my post any way.
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@Dashrender said:
I just received a voicemail from Citrix trying to sound like they are the HIPAA police demanding that I call him today or tomorrrow.. LOL
No, those guys are down the way from me.
Helps when you work for a security focused group.
