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    Linux Mint an Ideal Replacement to XP?

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    • ?
      A Former User
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      i've got it running on esxi lol not bad! my first linux desktop

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      • JoyJ
        Joy
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        Lucky we don't have Windows 7 running in Production.But we have Windows XP,Virtual Machine

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Ouch. Still in XP?

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          • Seth CooperS
            Seth Cooper
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            Well I just had my doomsday meeting with my boss (VP of Finance) and unveiled my weeks of research into different AV programs, and ways to ensure we are as close to bulletproof as possible as we approach April 8th. I inherited quite the outdated undocumented network (long story), anyway.

            I tried bringing up Linux as an alternative to XP probably six times and he kept cutting me off, that was like a cuss word to him. This guy has micro managed and scrutinized $7.50 cord purchases from Amazon, but even he doesn't want to move to Linux. I finally got to get out the perks of Linux's security through obscurity and that really there is no AV cost as well for Linux. To my surprise he skipped and didn't engage or entertain that prospective savings.

            Looks like I might just get a new fleet of PCs yet.. man I might just start dropping the L word when I need things that require funding.

            I am still going to familiarize myself with the distro as you never know, the CEO might veto and I genuinely think it's a great alternative. Sorry I couldn't be the guinea pig.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Top desktop choices are Mint, OpenSuse and Fedora. And Zorin seems to be making a name for itself.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                No "security by obscurity" in Linux. None at all.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @Seth Cooper
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                  @Seth-Cooper said:

                  Well I just had my doomsday meeting with my boss (VP of Finance) and unveiled my weeks of research into different AV programs, and ways to ensure we are as close to bulletproof as possible as we approach April 8th. I inherited quite the outdated undocumented network (long story), anyway.

                  I tried bringing up Linux as an alternative to XP probably six times and he kept cutting me off, that was like a cuss word to him. This guy has micro managed and scrutinized $7.50 cord purchases from Amazon, but even he doesn't want to move to Linux. I finally got to get out the perks of Linux's security through obscurity and that really there is no AV cost as well for Linux. To my surprise he skipped and didn't engage or entertain that prospective savings.

                  Looks like I might just get a new fleet of PCs yet.. man I might just start dropping the L word when I need things that require funding.

                  I am still going to familiarize myself with the distro as you never know, the CEO might veto and I genuinely think it's a great alternative. Sorry I couldn't be the guinea pig.

                  Is your whole IT department fluent in Linux?

                  What is your plan on managing PCs and retraining users for Linux?

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                  • Seth CooperS
                    Seth Cooper @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    No "security by obscurity" in Linux. None at all.

                    Well it's a good thing he didn't listen to me! I mainly meant a low % of viruses written for such a small user base.

                    From what I understood from the article originally posted it doesn't recommend any anti-virus besides ClamAV.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      XP to Mint has a lower learning curve for many people than XP to 8. We tested it. Much easier.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Seth Cooper
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                        @Seth-Cooper said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        No "security by obscurity" in Linux. None at all.

                        Well it's a good thing he didn't listen to me! I mainly meant a low % of viruses written for such a small user base.

                        From what I understood from the article originally posted it doesn't recommend any anti-virus besides ClamAV.

                        That's security through unpopularity 🙂

                        ClamAV is the most you would need and the worlds most secure environments don't even do that.

                        Security through obscurity is a term which means "no security". It's a reference to someone being insecure by not understanding security and attempting to hide rather than being secure.

                        Like failing to lick your front door but keeping the lights off so as not to attract attention to your unlocked house.

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                        • Seth CooperS
                          Seth Cooper
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                          Gotcha.

                          I laughed a bit as your response said "like failing to lick your front door". Threw me off a bit. I see the differences though and how that could confuse others in conversation using them inversely.

                          Thanks for the clarification!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            That's what I get for posting via iPhone.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Like failing to lick your front door but keeping the lights off so as not to attract attention to your unlocked house.

                              Remind me, what does licking your front door have to do with security 😛

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                              • NaraN
                                Nara @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Like failing to lick your front door but keeping the lights off so as not to attract attention to your unlocked house.

                                Remind me, what does licking your front door have to do with security 😛

                                If people see you do it, they won't want to touch your door afterwards.

                                Seriously, though, at this point, the focus of malware just isn't on Linux. Should the market shift away from Windows, that trend may change. Time will tell.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Nara
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                                  @Nara said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Like failing to lick your front door but keeping the lights off so as not to attract attention to your unlocked house.

                                  Remind me, what does licking your front door have to do with security 😛

                                  If people see you do it, they won't want to touch your door afterwards.

                                  Seriously, though, at this point, the focus of malware just isn't on Linux. Should the market shift away from Windows, that trend may change. Time will tell.

                                  This is the same thing they about Apple. The bad guys go where they will get the most bang for their buck.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Mint keeps getting attention with XP dying off. Another article today: http://www.zdnet.com/linux-mint-programs-for-windows-xp-users-7000028049/

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                                    • JoyJ
                                      Joy @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      XP to Mint has a lower learning curve for many people than XP to 8. We tested it. Much easier.

                                      thought of testing Linux Mint today. We still have issues that cannot resolve in windows 7, so we are using Win XP mode in virtual

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Joy
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                                        @Joyfano said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        XP to Mint has a lower learning curve for many people than XP to 8. We tested it. Much easier.

                                        thought of testing Linux Mint today. We still have issues that cannot resolve in windows 7, so we are using Win XP mode in virtual

                                        You can run Windows XP on VIrtualBox on Linux Mint.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          What kinds of problems are you having with WIn7?

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                                          • JoyJ
                                            Joy @Dashrender
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                                            The problem is some operators using IE9 in windows7 they were not able to login into clients site.
                                            So our temporary solutions are :
                                            1.) login to clients site using in Excel( export to Microsoft excel).
                                            2.) login using XP mode Virtua Machine (in Windows 7)

                                            Yes doing this two login is really too much work.
                                            We encountered this problem ERROR.PNG

                                            We already enabled Java. Also this Website are using Active X.

                                            Is it prossible that the problem is in our Browser?

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