Cost effective European Areas/Cities
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My fiance really wants to go to Venice, but it may be just because of the PR that area gets. Is Venice cost effective?
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@IRJ said:
My fiance really wants to go to Venice, but it may be just because of the PR that area gets. Is Venice cost effective?
About as cost-effective as saying, if you want to visit America, go to New York.
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@IRJ said:
My fiance really wants to go to Venice, but it may be just because of the PR that area gets. Is Venice cost effective?
Okay, this is my number one "never go to" city anywhere, not just in Europe. I recommended to two different people already this week about this. The worst of everything. Everything that is wrong with a high cost, totally fake, just for tourist location without the safety and cleanliness that that normally entails. It is the worst parts of Disney World and the worst parts of a slum mixed together with no upsides. Literally the worst place I've ever been in my life. Venice is pure marketing and one of the most expensive cities because there are no locals, it is all fake just for the high price tourists.
And Venice is not near anything, so you burn tons of time getting to and from too.
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Stick to southern Europe, as it is much cheaper than northern Europe. Check out airbnb.com for some great deals on nice places to stay. We have had excellent luck with airbnb in Spain. If you want to do more of a whirlwind tour as a "once-in-a-lifetime" type trip, then check out ricksteves.com and look at his guidebooks for all-Europe "grand tour" itinerary suggestions and for single country itineraries. If you want to be more laid back, pick a city like Sevilla, Granada or even Barcelona and see everything there is to see in that place, and take day trips. doyouspain.com has great deals on rental cars, and there are lots of train options too.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@IRJ said:
My fiance really wants to go to Venice, but it may be just because of the PR that area gets. Is Venice cost effective?
About as cost-effective as saying, if you want to visit America, go to New York.
Yeah.... and then only visiting Newark, NJ. It's dirty, disgusting and worthless.
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The only two places I've ever been to in Europe that I would say are actually not worth visiting, even if they were free and you were already there are Venice and Brussels. If I was to win a free vacation in either, I'd rather not take it than have to go to either place. They are that bad.
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We were not fans of Venice. It's overrated and dirty. If you really want to go, definitely check out Rick Steves' suggestions for getting the most out of Venice.
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Barcelona is amazing, but not exactly cheap and takes a bit more "work" than like Sevilla or Cordoba.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The only two places I've ever been to in Europe that I would say are actually not worth visiting, even if they were free and you were already there are Venice and Brussels. If I was to win a free vacation in either, I'd rather not take it than have to go to either place. They are that bad.
WOW - and Venice was on my list for next summer... now to reconsider.
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Cheap places I've lived: Sarajevo, southern Moscow, parts of Bratislava, many crappy towns in former East Germany, though still more expensive than a lot of places.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
The only two places I've ever been to in Europe that I would say are actually not worth visiting, even if they were free and you were already there are Venice and Brussels. If I was to win a free vacation in either, I'd rather not take it than have to go to either place. They are that bad.
WOW - and Venice was on my list for next summer... now to reconsider.
For some people, and I totally understand this, Venice is one of those things that you just can't resisting hitting as a "check box" as it is so iconic. I can understand. But the cost of doing Venice is enormous - both the financial cost of being in the city and getting to it, but also in the cost of time. You might give up several far better trips of awesome experiences in exchange for that one checkbox.
But I've hit that checkbox, so it would be unfair of me to say that there is no value to that. We were lucky, we arrived by overnight train, saw the city for about one hour on a boat and decided to just get on another train and leave feeling that there was nothing more to see in the city. Having the ability to just get on a train and leave to go on to our next place and having no ties to Venice (like a hotel reservation in town) allowed us to just escape.
If you are really into museums, Venice does have some. For me, travel is not about seeing famous sights which is all Venice has going for it. The value for me is mostly around people, culture, history and Venice is nearly vacant when it comes to that stuff. Yeah, it has cool history, but very little of it to see.
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Slight off topic but, Is Hawaii a good vacation place? seems to be popular but, I know a guy stationed there and he says it's a overcrowded and dirty place with really not that much to do.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Slight off topic but, Is Hawaii a good vacation place? seems to be popular but, I know a guy stationed there and he says it's a overcrowded and dirty place with really not that much to do.
I have several friends who have done it and love it. It's anything but cheap and lots of it is fake. But if you are there for the sun, weather and Pacific ocean then it has a lot to offer. If you want to "do something" then it has very little.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Slight off topic but, Is Hawaii a good vacation place? seems to be popular but, I know a guy stationed there and he says it's a overcrowded and dirty place with really not that much to do.
I've know a few people who went on vacation in Hawaii. They basically said if you stay off the beaches and the touristy areas it became much cleaner and easier to get around. Although the price was insane.
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@dominica and I are going to Hawaii in 2017. I'm interested but not super excited. But have never been on a Pacific Island so that will be a certain amount of interesting.
@smartkid808 lives in Hawaii.
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@Dashrender said:
WOW - and Venice was on my list for next summer... now to reconsider.
Do it! Venice is one of my favourite cities. I think it's my wife's favourite. Don't listen to Scott, there is nothing fake about it. It's just the most beautiful city I can imagine. There's plenty of cheap restaurants where the food is plain but perfectly edible. We didn't spend much there. We mainly just spent the week walking around going "Wow!".
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I lived in Guam for 2 years growing up... I'm kinda over Hawaii, but my wife wants to go some day.
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We honeymooned in Barcelona. It's probably my favourite city. I'm into architecture so it was worth it just for the Gaudi stuff, but I appreciate that's not everyone's cup of tea. We went in January and the weather was great and it wasn't too crowded. I'm not sure I'd fancy it in August.
Seville was a disappointment, I just didn't get what all the fuss was about.
What do you mean by scenery? I generally prefer cities, but for scenery you can't beat southern France and Italy. I love Provence, but it is pretty expensive. A lot depends on what time of year you are planning on going? Provence in the winter isn't so great.
For cost effectiveness, eastern Europe is the place to go. I've only been to Prague which was so-so, but Croatia is supposed to be pretty amazing.
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Any German recommendations? I am just trying to get a general consensus of good areas.
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Good scenery. Fairly expensive.
I love Florence. The only problem with it is too many American students
