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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
It's not the callers fault someone died. It's the ill-trained police jumping in throwing bullets around.
Why didn't the police just shoot everyone and anyone around him and just say... "well that kid shouldn't have pranked us, it's his fault"... same thing.
And what if it wasn't a prank, but they just got the address wrong - even when these things are real they require way more verification than an anonymous phone tip. Or the shooter sent out a hostage instead of coming out himself? Bottom line, the cop murdered a completely innocent guy based on nothing. Imagine if any other job operated like that.
Sadly nothing will come of this. The officer will go on paid leave until the press dies down and the PR will be spun to place the blame on the caller and not the cop that pulled the trigger.
Yup, and the poor family will be left without justice.
The kid should be charged with whatever it would be for pranking the police. Not anything to do with murder or causing death. The police should be.
The person who did the swatting can be charged with murder because his crime causes the events that someone got killed in if you are the getaway driver and someone dies during the crime you will most likely be charged for that murder. The police would most likely be charged with involuntary/voluntary manslaughter. You would have to prove that the police planned on killing someone during their response, in order to charge with murder, which would be unlikely to be proven. I believe both the caller and the police officer who shot that guy should be brought before a jury.
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@penguinwrangler said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
It's not the callers fault someone died. It's the ill-trained police jumping in throwing bullets around.
Why didn't the police just shoot everyone and anyone around him and just say... "well that kid shouldn't have pranked us, it's his fault"... same thing.
And what if it wasn't a prank, but they just got the address wrong - even when these things are real they require way more verification than an anonymous phone tip. Or the shooter sent out a hostage instead of coming out himself? Bottom line, the cop murdered a completely innocent guy based on nothing. Imagine if any other job operated like that.
Sadly nothing will come of this. The officer will go on paid leave until the press dies down and the PR will be spun to place the blame on the caller and not the cop that pulled the trigger.
Yup, and the poor family will be left without justice.
The kid should be charged with whatever it would be for pranking the police. Not anything to do with murder or causing death. The police should be.
The person who did the swatting can be charged with murder because his crime causes the events that someone got killed in if you are the getaway driver and someone dies during the crime you will most likely be charged for that murder. The police would most likely be charged with involuntary/voluntary manslaughter. You would have to prove that the police planned on killing someone during their response, in order to charge with murder, which would be unlikely to be proven. I believe both the caller and the police officer who shot that guy should be brought before a jury.
Yeah I came to the conclusion already that both should be charged with second degree murder per their states definitions and consequences.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
California Dispensaries can legally sell recreational marijuana starting tomorrow. Good for California.
Yeah, too bad smoking anything into your lungs is bad... smoke itself is... and yes, I know better than cigarettes, but it's all just different degrees of bad or harmfulness. One is worse than the other, but both are bad period.
If you want the health benefits of marijuana, but not the harm or damage from smoke, well... I'm sure there's some healthy baked goods recipes out there ^_^
Still illegal to smoke in public. But edibles seem to be ok.
Glad to hear that - now if they made smoking anything in public illegal.
It's getting closer. At least in CA.
You should see how it is in Sweden... I swear if you dropped someone off in the city who didn't know WHEN it was, they'd think it was 80's or 90's the way everyone is smoking like crazy.
oh, the whole of the US is way ahead of much of Europe, at least the parts I visited.
Panama is the best.... tobacco free country!
My wife and stepson have asthma. Before we got our house we lived next to chain smokers in an apartment building and when it got cold our apartment smelled of cigarette smoke, and it would cause their asthma to get worse. If my wife or stepson got any type of lung illness, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. We would go live with my parents for a couple of weeks to help them get over it because it just was harder for them to do with the amount of smoke coming from our neighbors. I think they had like 5 people living there who all chained smoked. So we will have to put Panama on our vacation list now.
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Amazon taking over the world:
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@penguinwrangler said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
California Dispensaries can legally sell recreational marijuana starting tomorrow. Good for California.
Yeah, too bad smoking anything into your lungs is bad... smoke itself is... and yes, I know better than cigarettes, but it's all just different degrees of bad or harmfulness. One is worse than the other, but both are bad period.
If you want the health benefits of marijuana, but not the harm or damage from smoke, well... I'm sure there's some healthy baked goods recipes out there ^_^
Still illegal to smoke in public. But edibles seem to be ok.
Glad to hear that - now if they made smoking anything in public illegal.
It's getting closer. At least in CA.
You should see how it is in Sweden... I swear if you dropped someone off in the city who didn't know WHEN it was, they'd think it was 80's or 90's the way everyone is smoking like crazy.
oh, the whole of the US is way ahead of much of Europe, at least the parts I visited.
Panama is the best.... tobacco free country!
My wife and stepson have asthma. Before we got our house we lived next to chain smokers in an apartment building and when it got cold our apartment smelled of cigarette smoke, and it would cause their asthma to get worse. If my wife or stepson got any type of lung illness, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. We would go live with my parents for a couple of weeks to help them get over it because it just was harder for them to do with the amount of smoke coming from our neighbors. I think they had like 5 people living there who all chained smoked. So we will have to put Panama on our vacation list now.
In a Panamanian meeting right now
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@coliver I saw this on the news yesterday morning. I get that this is the "only" road usable, but why can't they move this road back from this cliff edge and put in a barrier?
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@dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver I saw this on the news yesterday morning. I get that this is the "only" road usable, but why can't they move this road back from this cliff edge and put in a barrier?
Cost. That's almost always why it's like that. You are talking about a huge, poor country with more road to put barriers on than they can afford. They have good roads in the cities, but this was way out in the middle of nowhere.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
None of that has anything to do with the court case at hand.
You are mixing things.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
None of that has anything to do with the court case at hand.
You are mixing things.
It's contained within the same article, which is why I bring it up. That is a crazy law that the Taiwanese people have to deal with
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
None of that has anything to do with the court case at hand.
You are mixing things.
It's contained within the same article, which is why I bring it up. That is a crazy law that the Taiwanese have to deal with
Simple answer is just kill your parents once they're no longer useful (baby sitters etc).
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
None of that has anything to do with the court case at hand.
You are mixing things.
It's contained within the same article, which is why I bring it up. That is a crazy law that the Taiwanese people have to deal with
Why? Just because their culture codified something into a law that you do not like?
What makes you better?
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/world/asia/taiwan-dentist-court-mother-filial-son.html
This is insane. What if you have the worst parents in the world? Also consider the amount he's already paid.
None of your reaction is appropriate. This is a signed contract between adults that he was attempting to break. It also has nothing to do wit the parents being good or bad.
"The principle is backed up by law in Taiwan, where adults are legally prohibited from abandoning their parents."
The above is the insane part. What if you have terrible parents? Are you obgligated under law without contract to care for them? I understand the contract.
None of that has anything to do with the court case at hand.
You are mixing things.
It's contained within the same article, which is why I bring it up. That is a crazy law that the Taiwanese people have to deal with
Why? Just because their culture codified something into a law that you do not like?
What makes you better?
I assume human beings in Taiwan still have to deal with the same issues we do here such as pedophiles, child abuse, etc etc. Yet they have a law that states these children cannot abandon their parents and must take care of them? You don't see an issue there?
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@wirestyle22 well sure. . .
But I would also assume they have laws to protect the community and punish people that do such things. Thus the child doesn't need to take care of their pedobear parents.
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@dustinb3403 It's an assumption though. The only thing we know for sure is there a law saying otherwise. We don't know what special circumstances stop it from being applicable.
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@wirestyle22 ok... but do you think in any part of the world molesting your own child isn't punishable by prison (or other means)?
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@dustinb3403 so the kid is 8 when it happens. Patent goes to jail for 20 years. Kids 28 and still has to take care of them
