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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Paris art dealer 'forgets' €1.5m picture in taxi
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39782481

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad
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        GOT TO GO AND SAVE ALL OF THE CHOCOLATE!!

        http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fire-breaks-out-at-mars-candy-plant-in-waco/436069120

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @NerdyDad
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          @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

          GOT TO GO AND SAVE ALL OF THE CHOCOLATE!!

          http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fire-breaks-out-at-mars-candy-plant-in-waco/436069120

          And in other news tonight: Fire at chocolate factory causes prices of chocolate candies to rise exponentially overnight. Details at 11.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
            last edited by

            @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

            GOT TO GO AND SAVE ALL OF THE CHOCOLATE!!

            http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fire-breaks-out-at-mars-candy-plant-in-waco/436069120

            Worlds biggest smores

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

              GOT TO GO AND SAVE ALL OF THE CHOCOLATE!!

              http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fire-breaks-out-at-mars-candy-plant-in-waco/436069120

              Worlds biggest smores

              I'll bring the Graham crackers.

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              • KellyK
                Kelly @dafyre
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                @dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                GOT TO GO AND SAVE ALL OF THE CHOCOLATE!!

                http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fire-breaks-out-at-mars-candy-plant-in-waco/436069120

                Worlds biggest smores

                I'll bring the Graham crackers.

                If Joker did it they'd be Gotham crackers.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/when-it-comes-to-password-security-greyhound-com-is-truly-awful/

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                    How to ticket self parking cars?

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
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                      https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/02/german_data_protection_escort/

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews
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                        Only in Florida...

                        https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/02/arresy_weed_pipe/

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @mlnews
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                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                          How to ticket self parking cars?

                          How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                            How to ticket self parking cars?

                            How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                            Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              allows manual override will be major factors.

                              I think of the movie "I, Robot" anytime I think about needing a car with manual override. "You are having an accident." lol.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                How to ticket self parking cars?

                                How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                  How to ticket self parking cars?

                                  How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                  Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                  But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                  Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                    How to ticket self parking cars?

                                    How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                    Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                    But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                    Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

                                    Now we're starting to border on civil asset forfeiture. If anything, the person needs to be responsible for what their vehicle does.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                                      @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                      How to ticket self parking cars?

                                      How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                      Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                      But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                      Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

                                      Now we're starting to border on civil asset forfeiture. If anything, the person needs to be responsible for what their vehicle does.

                                      That's a problem, though, as you can only assign responsibility if they are given control. Otherwise, we are making people criminals based on things out of their control. I'd say that that mandates, at a minimum, guaranteed control of the software and open source by law.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                        How to ticket self parking cars?

                                        How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                        Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                        But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                        Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

                                        Now we're starting to border on civil asset forfeiture. If anything, the person needs to be responsible for what their vehicle does.

                                        That's a problem, though, as you can only assign responsibility if they are given control. Otherwise, we are making people criminals based on things out of their control. I'd say that that mandates, at a minimum, guaranteed control of the software and open source by law.

                                        Of course neither of those things are going to happen though.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                          How to ticket self parking cars?

                                          How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                          Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                          But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                          Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

                                          Now we're starting to border on civil asset forfeiture. If anything, the person needs to be responsible for what their vehicle does.

                                          That's a problem, though, as you can only assign responsibility if they are given control. Otherwise, we are making people criminals based on things out of their control. I'd say that that mandates, at a minimum, guaranteed control of the software and open source by law.

                                          Of course neither of those things are going to happen though.

                                          Nope, which is why holding the car owner responsible can't be even considered.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @NerdyDad said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/san-francisco-cops-should-get-autonomous-car-data-without-a-warrant/

                                            How to ticket self parking cars?

                                            How often will they really need to ticket them? I know there will be exceptions but in reality they will be able to follow all rules of the road and innovate new rules/laws.

                                            Able to follow, and made to follow aren't the same, though. Forcing your car to break the law or breaking the law with a car that allows manual override will be major factors.

                                            But that would still be a person behind the wheel at that point, at least in the case of a manual override.

                                            Right, which is why ticketing is potentially needed. How do you ticket a self driving car after it has been parked? Because you don't know if there was a software issue, a miscommunication of parking rules or a human parked of their own accord.

                                            Now we're starting to border on civil asset forfeiture. If anything, the person needs to be responsible for what their vehicle does.

                                            That's a problem, though, as you can only assign responsibility if they are given control. Otherwise, we are making people criminals based on things out of their control. I'd say that that mandates, at a minimum, guaranteed control of the software and open source by law.

                                            Of course neither of those things are going to happen though.

                                            Nope, which is why holding the car owner responsible can't be even considered.

                                            Which means to me that personal vehicle ownership will probably be a thing of the past in the near-ish future.... aside from some hangers-on. People will refuse to take the liability of a software they can't "control" and pass it up to the companies that sell the cars...

                                            Of course I'm assuming an agency for consumers that they don't actually posses.

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