Aetherstore, looks amazing, what about...
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Axiom has some really inexpensive SFP+ modules out there.
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Here is Toby saying that they are from the Linksys line...
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/609496-cisco-sg-300-vs-cisco-2960sDoesn't make it authoritative. But I've heard this a bit since having dealt with them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thecreativeone91 said:
Ah, those aren't Linksys nor re-branded. They are built after the separation and redone. They are nothing like linksys. They are a lot better than anything Netgear has ever put out.
We had to yank a lot of them and replace with Netgear due to quality issues. They are one of the lines that make me mistrust Cisco and what Cisco is willing to put their name on. We didn't recommend them, of course, but everyone jumped on them being Linksys division gear when we yanked them. That's what we heard from the SW crowd - we were berated for it being common knowledge and that it was ridiculous that we thought of them as Ciscos. Just repeating what we were told.
I think they may have been Linksys many many years ago when they looked like these: but the new ones are Cisco made. I think they slapped some cisco logos on some of the older ones too. Not sure why they didn't change the model number from the old stuff to the new stuff.
Older Style
Newer Cisco Ones. The Cisco ones while not full on IOS do have a CLI and supports all the same commands as IOS and also runs in layer 2 & 3 mode. The SG500 can stack as well. The Linksys crap can't. And it's just crap all around.
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I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
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Oh they definitely updated the badge to make it look new. No doubt there. But the code it is running appears to be Linksys code. Sure, they brought out the latest model number post divesting themselves of the Linksys disaster. But Cisco had integrated the low quality, ridiculous Linksys mindset and kept a Linksys derived "not really Cisco" group going to keep making Linksys style crap after selling the Linksys brand name on to Belkin, is what was implied. Even when they owned Linksys, it was still "Cisco" making the stuff. Just link it was Linksys making Sipura stuff. Once you buy a company, it's you.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
Here is an example Netgear Prosafe. Low cost, smart, not managed, with VLAN support and fibre support.
http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/smart/GS724Tv4.aspx#tab-techspecs
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@Breffni-Potter said:
I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
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@coliver said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
Those look great and likely I'd recommend them. Just haven't gotten my hands on one yet to test. Netgear Prosafe we have used and recommended for nearly twenty years.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
Here is an example Netgear Prosafe. Low cost, smart, not managed, with VLAN support and fibre support.
http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/smart/GS724Tv4.aspx#tab-techspecs
Nothing but problems with those switches. literally I could tell you were about 75 of those are in the trash.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Oh they definitely updated the badge to make it look new. No doubt there. But the code it is running appears to be Linksys code. Sure, they brought out the latest model number post divesting themselves of the Linksys disaster. But Cisco had integrated the low quality, ridiculous Linksys mindset and kept a Linksys derived "not really Cisco" group going to keep making Linksys style crap after selling the Linksys brand name on to Belkin, is what was implied. Even when they owned Linksys, it was still "Cisco" making the stuff. Just link it was Linksys making Sipura stuff. Once you buy a company, it's you.
It's not the same code at all. I've looked a both. They aren't even the same hardware on the inside.
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Other than taking a power surge that fried a whole cabinet, haven't had an issue with a single one yet. Knock on wood, of course. The biggest benefit to them is simplicity combined with a price so low you can keep spares cheaper than you can have a support contract on most other gear.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
It's not the same code at all. I've looked a both. They are even the same hardware on the inside.
Which two are the same hardware?
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What code is the SG200 running? It isn't' IOS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
I'm not purchasing Cisco gear unless hell freezes over
If there is any other option (and there are) then we'll go with that.
Those look great and likely I'd recommend them. Just haven't gotten my hands on one yet to test. Netgear Prosafe we have used and recommended for nearly twenty years.
That's what we have standardized on. Working phenomenally well.
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How many do you have? How long have you had them? We've been talking about getting some.
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@scottalanmiller said:
What code is the SG200 running? It isn't' IOS.
No it's not IOS but it supports the IOS commands.
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@scottalanmiller said:
How many do you have? How long have you had them? We've been talking about getting some.
Sorry I meant we've standardized on the Prosafe switches. I am going to get one of the Ubiquiti ones if we need to expand in the future.
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You might consider the Dell Power Connect Switches or HP Procurves as well. I like them both. I still standardize with Cisco though. I much prefer the Catalyst layer 3 switches over any of them.
The Current SG series is based off the Cisco ESW500 which was never a Linksys product. (suppose to be a replacement for Cisco Catalyst Express)
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HP Procurves what what we were going to go for, but we need 50 ports, next year's budget when I'm not here
Despite only have 11-12 in an office, It's basically a small conference centre + other activities that go on.
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@thecreativeone91 I got my CCNA... and the first network admin job I had had 1 Cisco router when I started... but we wound up going with HP Switches because they were more affordable at the time than the Cisco switches. We never looked back!
If I build a new network, unless there is some requirement for Cisco, then I'd build the network with HP from the ground up and not bat an eye.
@Breffni-Potter -- That really irked me when we did our last refresh. The switches went from 50 ports down to 48, lol. It didn't mess us up anywhere, but that was still aggravating!
