Damn Stamps.com

@scottalanmiller said:

@thecreativeone91 said:

It's a known scam by USPS.

Did USPS buy Stamps.com?

as far as I know they've always been a partner of it. I don't know if they actually own it or what.

Dashrender

I think Stamps.com is just like Paypal in so much that they simply resell postage for USPS.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said:

I think Stamps.com is just like Paypal in so much that they simply resell postage for USPS.

What does Paypall resell?

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

Updated. Thanks. We have a titter feed? not that I would follow it, I really don't like twitter.

Yup. It's not huge, but it has activity.

@MangoLassiit

What decided which ones get posted?

scottalanmiller

@thecreativeone91 said:

as far as I know they've always been a partner of it. I don't know if they actually own it or what.

Partner doesn't mean that this is a USPS scam. Partner can just mean reseller or any number of things.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

I think Stamps.com is just like Paypal in so much that they simply resell postage for USPS.

What does Paypall resell?

Paypal doesn't resell them you buy them directly from USPS using Paypal's volume discount.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said:

@Dashrender said:

I think Stamps.com is just like Paypal in so much that they simply resell postage for USPS.

What does Paypall resell?

Postage - maybe resell is the wrong term. you can buy postage for anything through PP. You don't have to be paid for an item through PP to use PP to buy postage.

scottalanmiller

I had no idea you could get postage by any means via PP.

@scottalanmiller said:

I had no idea you could get postage by any means via PP.

Yep. But stay away from UPS on their. even though you pay for it they way it works with them is paypal is on the account name even though it shows yours. You can't dispute anything. They damaged a speaker that I shipped. Then blamed it on improper packaging because it needs to take a 10 ft fall and be fine according to them. When I disputed it they kept making fraudulent charges.. but paypal doesn't let you dispute UPS charges. So they took me for over $500 is random No deliverable address, return shipping fess etc. Even though the item was delivered fine just damaged. They tried to say the apartment number was missing but it was on all the shipping labels and records. just not on the invoices they made up after I opened a damaged package case. I almost took them to small claims court but I figured it was not worth the trouble. I usually just ship USPS priority mail if I can.

nadnerB

Call your credit card company and tell them that you would like to cancel direct debit permission for the stamps buttheads.

Dashrender

@scottalanmiller said:

I had no idea you could get postage by any means via PP.

Yep you can.
Bookmark this link
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

This link allows you to buy postage without having it attached to a payment you received. I can find no way to get there from withing PP itself, this direct link is the only way.
But, if you do receive a normal 'fees included' payment through PP that includes an address from the payee, Pp gives you a button that lets you buy postage from them and print a label you can then tape to the box.

Dashrender

@nadnerB said:

Call your credit card company and tell them that you would like to cancel direct debit permission for the stamps buttheads.

already done. AmEx put a 4 year hold on charges from Stamps.com They won't be hitting me again.

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I had no idea you could get postage by any means via PP.

Yep you can.
Bookmark this link
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

This link allows you to buy postage without having it attached to a payment you received. I can find no way to get there from withing PP itself, this direct link is the only way.
But, if you do receive a normal 'fees included' payment through PP that includes an address from the payee, Pp gives you a button that lets you buy postage from them and print a label you can then tape to the box.

It's under seller tools but it's hard to find. It takes like three clicks to get there. Granted I'm a Paypal Select (Beta tester basically) member so my layout might be different.

This is why most people just do a charge back. Not saying you should, just saying.

Dashrender

@thecreativeone91 said:

@Dashrender said:

@scottalanmiller said:

I had no idea you could get postage by any means via PP.

Yep you can.
Bookmark this link
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

This link allows you to buy postage without having it attached to a payment you received. I can find no way to get there from withing PP itself, this direct link is the only way.
But, if you do receive a normal 'fees included' payment through PP that includes an address from the payee, Pp gives you a button that lets you buy postage from them and print a label you can then tape to the box.

It's under seller tools but it's hard to find. It takes like three clicks to get there. Granted I'm a Paypal Select (Beta tester basically) member so my layout might be different.

I think I am as well, three pages with the maze being as bad as it is.. ug!

Dashrender

@Aaron-Studer said:

This is why most people just do a charge back. Not saying you should, just saying.

I did tell my CC that I wanted to try to work this out with Stamps.com first, but at the same time to refuse all future charge attempts.

Dashrender

OK I called stamps.com and they had an automated way to cancel, nice - but they still tried to charge me for 1 more day of use after the last payment, which they realized failed immediately. They have already sent me an email asking me to pay for that one day through another means.. LOL like that will ever happen!

I'm still going to try to get my two months worth of fees back, but it seems unlikely at this point without a charge back (not sure I'm willing to go that far) I'm guessing I missed the damned small print so I might just take that on the chin.

Dashrender

Alright - finally have someone on the phone.

They are claiming that they charge in arrears for the service.. so the first month isn't really free - He's now playing word games with me calling it a Risk Free Trial - I told him that is not what the website says so at bare minimum they should be refunding me the last charge (2 days ago) minus any single day fees they wanna hold on to.

Of course I now find myself sitting on hold with them.. and I'm sure they are going to make me wait for 30+ mins.

Dashrender

Wow hold only last 5 or so min.

They are in fact charging in arrears.

Since the system tried to charge me $1.55 for the extra day of this month since the last billing, and my card denied their transactions - the person is telling me that they can't return the last month's charge because of the hang up from the 'final charge.'

At least I know things are setup correctly on my CC side and they won't be charging me anymore.