Cloud Storage - Recommendations and your expierence - can Pertino fill this need?



  • We need cloud storage for several users (on/off road with laptops) - Microsoft OneDrive looked good but if fubars when you try to get it to work on different hardware - for example, we can't get it to work on a Surface Pro 2 (wtf?). Also, it takes 24 hours to change permissions (wtf?) While researching this, I thought about Pertino. What if, you used Pertino and the end user had access to their documents wherever they were? Would Pertino be a good solution instead of paying for a cloud storage provider? Can the end user have a copy of their documents locally and when connected to the network, it will automatically sync as if it were on a domain, or am I asking too much and should continue looking for storage providers that give me my solution:

    1. need users to be able to easily access files via explorer using a file/folder structure
    2. Need to be able to securely share files
    3. need to update/sync when online
    4. Need access offline (on a plane, or no internet available)
    5. Need to access from phone/laptop/surface/desktop, etc....) from anywhere
    6. Centralized management
    7. quick security control
      8 encryption of files

    Can using Pertino give me this or am I needing a very versatile cloud provider?



  • @bob-beatty I reached out to Josh and Pertino I am sure he will be able to chime in on this one.



  • thanks! @Minion-Queen



  • Pertino won't change how anything behaves. If you put a file server onto Pertino it will behave exactly as it always does, no features will change. Pertino will just give you a direct IP address to allow you to always be connected to it. We do this at NTG all of the time.



  • With Pertino they would always be on the domain. So no sync is really necessary unless the are completely offline. But it is just a VPN so any sync technology still has to come from your server.



  • Pertino is a network technology, not a storage one. Pertino operates purely at the TCP/IP layer. It doesn't interact with any applications.



  • Num. 1/2: assuming you are using a Windows file server this will be all the features you are used to. NTFS ACLs, AD, etc.

    We can demo this for you. I can do a join.me with you later to show you our Windows FS on Pertino.



  • No idea where that font came from.



  • Num 3/4: You can use things like offline files for this.



  • Num 6/7: Same as above, it would just be a normal Windows server so all of those features are the same as on the LAN.



  • Num 5: How do you do this today? Pertino is android only right now.

    Use WebDAV to publish to phones to get around that.


  • Vendor

    Well I'm glad I didn't come in too soon! SAM hit the nail on the head. We provide the connectivity. You provide the services and permissions.

    I haven't heard a ton of great things about Windows syncing capabilities, but Pertino can provide the connections depending on OSes involved. You could also look at OwnCloud, Sher.ly, etc. Much cheaper alternative to cloud storage, just be prepared for versioning issues with any cloud storage solution where you are enabling local copies.



  • Can't comment on Pertino. Of course, there are loads of cloud storage offerings but my only experience is with Trend Micro SafeSync, which I hated, and Livedrive.com which I quite like. So our remote workers now use Livedrive.com



  • The sync issue was the 1 item I was concerned about. Plus, the users need to use a folder structure for "Personal files" and "Shared files". The reason I thought about Pertino was the "always on" effect. But as far as syncing, I think that would be an issue if you are looking at accessing these documents from a phone, surface, laptop, etc... I see the Windows OS environment syncing just fine, but what about the phone or other non-windows devices?



  • @Bob-Beatty said:

    The sync issue was the 1 item I was concerned about. Plus, the users need to use a folder structure for "Personal files" and "Shared files". The reason I thought about Pertino was the "always on" effect. But as far as syncing, I think that would be an issue if you are looking at accessing these documents from a phone, surface, laptop, etc... I see the Windows OS environment syncing just fine, but what about the phone or other non-windows devices?

    It's always about the server and device. Do your devices have some "sync to Windows" functionality? I'm not aware of a product that does that.



  • @Carnival-Boy said:

    Can't comment on Pertino. Of course, there are loads of cloud storage offerings but my only experience is with Trend Micro SafeSync, which I hated, and Livedrive.com which I quite like. So our remote workers now use Livedrive.com

    Does livedrive allow local copies for offline, then sync? version control? easy folder/shared folder setup?



  • What about something like Dropbox or the 100 other clones?



  • I haven't tried the service myself quite yet, but Cubby from LogMeIn appears to hit all of your bullet points, and even includes remote wipe. It also lets you make a cubby out of existing folders, rather than sticking to a defined hierarchy like Dropbox does.



  • @Bob-Beatty said:

    @Carnival-Boy said:

    Can't comment on Pertino. Of course, there are loads of cloud storage offerings but my only experience is with Trend Micro SafeSync, which I hated, and Livedrive.com which I quite like. So our remote workers now use Livedrive.com

    Does livedrive allow local copies for offline, then sync? version control? easy folder/shared folder setup?

    Yes, all of these things. I don't personally use these features, but I believe some of my users are using it and I've had no complaints.



  • Might be worth having a look at the sync n share providers. Most will do what you need but Encryption isn't on man of their lists. Egnyte will integrate with Sophos SGN and I think Box are doing the same

    http://www.egnyte.com/file-server/online-file-server-features.html

    In my previous life we were rolling Egnyte to over 30,000 users with plans to grow that to 140,000...I was just talking to an ex-colleague this morning who said its going really well. The solution puts a NAS type device in your LAN and does a sync to cloud but has an offline personal cloud function and works on almost anything



  • Egnyte has a relationship with Netgear ReadyNAS. Very handy option.


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