IT Infrastructure Career



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    asy and applies to nearly all IT careers.

    Yes Sir.I choose the field as Networking and in that I will follow the Comptia Network +



  • @Lakshmana said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    asy and applies to nearly all IT careers.

    Yes Sir.I choose the field as Networking and in that I will follow the Comptia Network +

    Network+ is very fundamental. It doesn't apply solely to networking careers. Even as a desktop tech, you should have the Network+.



  • @scottalanmiller Yes Sir I will develop my Network + career



  • @Lakshmana said:

    IT Security

    If you are referring to Network Security the holy grail used to be the CISSP but, that would be much later one when you delveop entry level certs, and then network admin certs. However, many are saving the cert isn't quite as valuable as it used to be.

    Experience, proven knowledge, good resume/references, and learning the proper way to do things and continually learning new things is a lot more powerful than certs though. Certs get HR to look at you, not much else.



  • @thecreativeone91 said:

    Experience, proven knowledge, good resume/references, and learning the proper way to do things and continually learning new things is a lot more powerful than certs though. Certs get HR to look at you, not much else.

    For general applications at various places, the easiest way to get a job is to HAVE a cert or degree that HR will look at in the first place.

    I agree that certs and degrees are generally useless once people have a certain amount of experience. But not everyone is able to start off as an intern or other similar task.



  • @Lakshmana said:

    Hi All,
    I am Lakshmana Shiva from India interested in IT Security but am unsure of What I want to pursue or how to switch from what I am doing currently into a security role.Can anyone suggest me ?

    Yeah, don't.

    I had a long and involved, probably racist, response, but it boils down to this. If you have to ask, you will never know. The hubris of thinking you have been a desktop grunt for 6 months and think that qualifies you to jump into security says how little you actually have for experience.

    Go work, get experience, and maybe in a few years, re-approach this.



  • @PSX_Defector said:

    Go work, get ex

    yes I know sir.My long term goal is Security side.So I am just getting information about that field thats it



  • @PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.

    @Lakshmana For security you have a lot of reading / learning to do. There are a ton of courses online to get you rolling, others will have some better resources for you than I can suggest right at the moment. I wish you all the best!



  • @MattSpeller said:

    @PSX_Defector Dude.... Lucky I'm not in the same room as you right now.

    Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a [moderated] attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

    As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

    [moderator message: Please keep it professional]



  • @PSX_Defector said:

    Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

    As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

    Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.



  • @MattSpeller said:

    @PSX_Defector said:

    Let's just say that I do not appreciate the IT folks of a certain subcontinent at this moment. And if you knew what I've had to deal with their pure unadulterated stupidity, unprofessionalism, and plain jane don't give a shit attitude, you would be in the same boat too.

    As they say, dey took our jerbs! Literally in this case.

    Quit this while you're behind man. At the very minimum it does not belong in this thread.

    [full reply moderated out due to community guideline violation]

    [moderator message: Please keep it professional personal opinions on this type of thing are not in line with the OP]



  • @PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way. Those kinds of people are in every country. I've seen kids who excel in IT just out of pure interest in learning and no experience. If @Lakshmana wants to know some details on whatever he wants to pursue, we just need to share the info.

    Honestly I could see the same unprofessionalism in your comments, we are all IT Pros and are here to share our knowledge, learn from
    each one of them.



  • @Ambarishrh Thanks for your valuable comment Sir



  • And comments like that show a level of unprofessionalism that justifies work going elsewhere. If Americans can't act professionally, even if we can do the work technically, that just makes it a no brainer to send jobs elsewhere.



  • Please turn your reply's back to answering the OP. Thank you.



  • @Lakshmana

    Since you are is still pretty new in IT I would suggest starting your study (you have gotten many suggestions here) and also combining it with coming to a community such as this with questions.

    Also building out your own home lab to testing things and get your hands on experience is really important. Or finding a way to intern in the area you are looking to learn.



  • @scottalanmiller So true!
    @Lakshmana your'e welcome. Please feel free to ask anything in IT in the forum and I am sure a lot of people will come forward to help you without any hesitation. Wish you all success.

    Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications



  • @Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge



  • @Ambarishrh Thanks for your support sir



  • What is keeping you from having a home lab? Space? Cost?



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications

    Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."



  • @Lakshmana said:

    @Minion-Queen Madam Thanks for your suggestion I can't make home lab I am interested to attend intern to improve my knowledge

    You can do VM's for almost all of it.



  • @thecreativeone91 said:

    @Ambarishrh said:

    Now regarding your question, check http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/how-to-start-your-career-as-a-security-pro/ they have some pointers on where to start and mentions almost the same thing which is discussed here, CompTIA certifications

    Good article, though I'm wondering where they are seeing this. I haven't. " Entry-level security jobs are becoming more and more common so you won't necessarily have to pay your dues through junior network admin or junior helpdesk positions."

    Where are people seeing entry level security jobs? Does anyone have a good "picture" of what the job role, pay, responsibilities and such typically are? I've only seen a few places with security roles and they were always very senior and expected a lot of technical background.



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    @PSX_Defector Just because you had some bad experience with one or two guys, please do not consider everyone that way.

    Think over 500. Just right now. Thousands in the past.

    There are folks who DO know what they are doing. OP might be in that boat. But facts are facts, he's not got enough experience to even contemplate a security career path at this point. Everyone needs experience to even understand the fundamentals of how to secure networks. 6 months working as a desktop goon does not bring that.

    I'm not anything if not blunt and honest. And if folks don't like that, then screw 'em.



  • You are correct, he is too junior to be looking at security paths today. But he can consider it as a goal for the future and pursue short term (2-3 year) goals that would put him on a path for a security future. Paths like network administration and system administration tend to be best for getting into security and security related fields where others, like desktop support and database administration do not.

    So focusing on something like systems administration, which is a common job role outsourced to where he is, could make a lot of sense. Continuing to gain experience in desktop support while studying to work on Linux, for example, could move him in the short term to a junior Linux admin role in, say, 18 months and then he could begin to look at adding security to his portfolio so that he could move in that direction.





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  • @scottalanmiller The idea is good to see, the money is also low but I will follow that method after sometimes because the salary is also low for me because I am fresher to IT.I will definitely follow but it takes sometime to go



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Lakshmana said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    asy and applies to nearly all IT careers.

    Yes Sir.I choose the field as Networking and in that I will follow the Comptia Network +

    Network+ is very fundamental. It doesn't apply solely to networking careers. Even as a desktop tech, you should have the Network+.

    It's an essential cert for people getting started. Once you've got about a year in the field, get your A+. Skim a study guide on it and you should pass without issue. It isn't worth a lot, but some places will screen you based on it. It's stupid but it's how it is.

    If you want to get into security, go for your Security+. Another CompTIA cert. I found it to be mostly common sense but that might have just been the questions I got. If you're gonna try to get into security, that's another essential one.



  • While I agree with both @PSX_Defector and @scottalanmiller that @Lakshmana is too junior to be looking to enter security, I also agree that it's never too early to start trying to plan out what you might want to do.

    However, let me offer this advice: IT is such a broad field and has SO MANY different both general and specialty fields you can enter, that the best thing you can do is just work. If you aren't happy where you are, go somewhere else and try something else. Every organization, even with identical job descriptions, does things differently, supports different clients or types of clients, and you'll be surprised by what you pick up and learn to love.

    Although it's pretty niche, even @scottalanmiller refers to me as the "printer guy". That came from my first job in retail at Staples. I've extended my specialty into more business and enterprise level stuff but I gained this passion from a retail-level IT job.

    Also, always remember: you can learn something from EVERY job you hold and do

    Everywhere you go, everything you do, take something away from it. Whether that is a new technical skill, a life/career lesson, or whatever, grow from everything you do and maintain the attitude that you will grow from everything you do. It will benefit you greatly.


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