NAS for VMWare 5.5 backups from Veeam



  • What NAS would all of you recommend for local backup purposes? The client has VMWare 5.5 and I am using the free Veeam for now. I am not sure what long term backup solution I will purchase because I need to do more research on that subject.
    So for now, I just want a NAS that I can attached to the ESX host and use as a Veeam Zip to location.



  • @JaredBusch said:

    What NAS would all of you recommend for local backup purposes? The client has VMWare 5.5 and I am using the free Veeam for now. I am not sure what long term backup solution I will purchase because I need to do more research on that subject.
    So for now, I just want a NAS that I can attached to the ESX host and use as a Veeam Zip to location.

    The usual suspects: Synology, ReadyNAS and Buffalo. Maybe Thecus but haven't touched them before. Definitely not QNAP. Size and features will matter, but for most SMB purposes, those listed are best.



  • I have used plenty of Buffalo products in the past, but I read a bunch of mixed reviews on using them with NFS. Can anyone name a specific model that they have used well in an ESX setting?



  • @JaredBusch said:

    I have used plenty of Buffalo products in the past, but I read a bunch of mixed reviews on using them with NFS. Can anyone name a specific model that they have used well in an ESX setting?

    You would definitely want to avoid the Terestation WSS line for NFS. It would be the normal Terestation line that would be of interest.

    I use Synology, ReadyNAS and SAM-SD for NFS.



  • How much data do you need to store and how fast do you need to store it?



  • http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=3962

    ReadyNAS Ultra 6
    Loaded with pretty generic 3TB 7200 rpm SATA drives

    Running in a RAID10
    NAS connection works fine for backup target - no AD LDAP support but has quite a few other options been working pretty well even running low utilization webserver over the NFS connection...

    Veeam targets readynas over CIFS share from windows host so not even using the NFS storage for Backups.. just a few test vms setup as a datastore. also setup an iscsi target for one of my other systems to store data on as well.

    all those connections it hasn't missed a beat for 24-30 months.



  • @BC Ultra line is gone now. I believe that this is the replacement model:

    http://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/readynas/RN31600.aspx#tab-techspecs



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    How much data do you need to store and how fast do you need to store it?

    Let me step back and ask the better question.

    I have 2 ESXi 5.5 hosts with less than 1 TB of data on each sitting on local storage (SATA drives in RAID10). I want to back them up to a device on site.
    Each server has 2x 1Gb NIC currently both assigned to the same VM network. There is no other communication method currently configured.

    I was thinking to use NFS, but I can just map in windows if that is not really too slow. So I open this up to any method, not just NFS. I will eventually be working in a solution that does off-site also, but for now I just want solid VM level backups.



  • I would think that for that a two bay, Synology 214 or ReadyNAS, doing NFS, would be idea. Use 3TB+ drives, a pair, in RAID 1. Cheap, highly reliable, super simple.



  • http://www.amazon.com/ReadyNAS-diskless-Attached-generation-RNDU6000/dp/B003V8AL98
    But does look like no longer being made...
    My case was I didn't even care about it being the ProSeries The Home Version worked fine and saved additional $$s (next one however will probably be the Pro Series)

    still around.. but also the Duo for his case makes perfect sense...

    The free veeam will connect over SMB protocols so it won't even utilize NFS will it? still even going over CIFS/SMB I am getting some prett good speeds ~90mbit (at the highest)



  • For a backup target, AD is definitely overkill.



  • @BC said:

    The free veeam will connect over SMB protocols so it won't even utilize NFS will it? still even going over CIFS/SMB I am getting some prett good speeds ~90mbit (at the highest)

    NFS will connect at the hypervisor level as a datastore though. So the windows VM that I have Veeam in will just see it as a drive that way. I can test it both ways I guess.



  • awesome...
    my veeam is running on a physical host and haven't played with much more than making sure it runs...

    Will have to check those settings



  • When I setup Veeam, I use a Synology as the NFS datastore. The performance is good, the device is well-built for the price, and the DS412+ is on the VMware HCL. As a multipurpose device, you can also use it for misc. storage, or even give it some of your VM workload. Where are your replicas going currently, to the opposite host?



  • I forgot to mention... One trick is to use NFS and plop a replica of the Veeam server on the device as well. That way, should your hosts fail, you're ready-to-recover with basically any ESXi host with no messing around. Mount the datastore, spin up the VM, and Veeam's ready to rumble. Add 2 drives when needed to create another volume, and you can even do the restore and temporarily run your workload (albeit IOPS-bound) on the Synology.



  • Ok so a client just bought Veeam and a rack mount Buffalo Terastation.

    I will be backing up two Hyper-V hosts. I am configuring the NAS today is there recommended share format to use? NFS, SMB, etc.

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  • I'm using a ReadyNAS 316 using my Veeam.



  • Coming back to this. Wow time is getting away form me and I am leaving billable work on the table too long.

    I have Veeam installed on a physical workstation. I have the NAS in the rack with everything else.

    How should I configure this in Veeam Backup Respository section? CIFS/SMB or NFS? Will I get better performance with one method over another?

    Screen Shot 2014-11-01 at 11.57.48 AM.png



  • CIFS and NFS should be pretty close on a LAN. I'd prefer NFS in most cases. Unless you need CIFS features, NFS is a little more efficient and robust.



  • @scottalanmiller well I just tried to set this up and failed, but I did not read any instructions, just clicked through menus. I will break our the manual this afternoon and try agaiN.


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