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    • IRJ
      IRJ last edited by

      I thought this was an interested read about bloatware

      http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2013/08/why-japanese-carriers-put-bloatware-on.html

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller last edited by

        This is why you want American (Apple) devices!

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        • Dashrender
          Dashrender last edited by

          How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by scottalanmiller

            @Dashrender said:

            How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

            They are a private company, they can do what they want. Where did you see that they gave that up in Japan, though?

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            • Dashrender
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @Dashrender said:

              How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

              They are a private company, they can do what they want. Where did you see that they gave that up in Japan, though?

              Of course they can do what they want, but they didn't allow AT&T etc (or so I thought) to install a bunch of junk on iPhones - am I wrong?

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @Dashrender said:

                How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

                They are a private company, they can do what they want. Where did you see that they gave that up in Japan, though?

                Of course they can do what they want, but they didn't allow AT&T etc (or so I thought) to install a bunch of junk on iPhones - am I wrong?

                No, don't think so. Apple's whole claim to fame is all devices are identical from every carrier. Zero bloatware, zero ads.

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                • Dashrender
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

                  They are a private company, they can do what they want. Where did you see that they gave that up in Japan, though?

                  Of course they can do what they want, but they didn't allow AT&T etc (or so I thought) to install a bunch of junk on iPhones - am I wrong?

                  No, don't think so. Apple's whole claim to fame is all devices are identical from every carrier. Zero bloatware, zero ads.

                  OK wait, I understand. Your comment @scottalanmiller made me think that the iPhone in Japan also had junkware on it. The article says android.
                  There's a ton of junkware on android in the US too.

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                  • nadnerB
                    nadnerB @scottalanmiller last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    This is why you want American (Apple) devices!

                    This is also why many can't afford them.

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                    • nadnerB
                      nadnerB @IRJ last edited by

                      @IRJ said:

                      I thought this was an interested read about bloatware

                      http://www.japanmobiletech.com/2013/08/why-japanese-carriers-put-bloatware-on.html

                      Most carriers here in Australia add their own bloatware to Android and Windows phones.
                      However, you can uninstall the bloatware on Windows phones just like any app from the Windows store.

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                      • nadnerB
                        nadnerB last edited by

                        I like to, but can't always, buy a factory unlocked phone. Zero bloatware and carrier agnostic (so long as you select a phone with the correct frequencies)

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                        • JaredBusch
                          JaredBusch last edited by

                          I read the link text and thought this was old news. then I clicked through and yeah, this is a news article from August of 2013. I can only assume that for being a site dedicated to mobile in Japan they have few actual people inside the industry over there.

                          Because NTT announced less than a month later that they were going to carry the iPhone 5s (source).

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                          • JaredBusch
                            JaredBusch last edited by

                            On the topic of mobile phone bloatware though, the article is spot on.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              How did Apple give up the ability to add junkware to the iPhone in Japan, but not in the US?

                              They are a private company, they can do what they want. Where did you see that they gave that up in Japan, though?

                              Of course they can do what they want, but they didn't allow AT&T etc (or so I thought) to install a bunch of junk on iPhones - am I wrong?

                              No, don't think so. Apple's whole claim to fame is all devices are identical from every carrier. Zero bloatware, zero ads.

                              OK wait, I understand. Your comment @scottalanmiller made me think that the iPhone in Japan also had junkware on it. The article says android.
                              There's a ton of junkware on android in the US too.

                              Yes, that's why you buy Apple.

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                              • D
                                doyle.jack last edited by

                                With the newer versions of Android, carriers can add the bloatware directly from the Play Store as the phone is activated. The way to avoid the bloatware (though you can uninstall it when it is installed using this method) is to remove the SIM card while you perform the initial setup on the phone.

                                My last phone was a Galaxy S3 running CyanogenMod, so I didn't have to deal with bloat there. My current phone is a Moto X 2014 that also has none.

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                                • Dashrender
                                  Dashrender @nadnerB last edited by

                                  @nadnerB said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  This is why you want American (Apple) devices!

                                  This is also why many can't afford them.

                                  Does anyone know how much the carriers make when they install this bloatware?

                                  Relating this to the recent Superfish issue on Lenovos and all the other crapware that comes pre-installed from OEMs, does anyone know how much they really get paid for these installs? If it's something like $20 or less, do you really believe that sales would shift from one vendor to another over $20? If the vendor who's machine were now $20 more each but getting rave reviews in stability and performance, etc, do you think this would be enough to get people to pay the $20?

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                                  • david.wiese
                                    david.wiese last edited by

                                    I have a Moto X first gen with very little bloatware. The crap that verizon installs ontop i just go in and disable the apps. No big deal so now I have a stock android phone with no bloatware.

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