Adobe showing no love for Linux any more!

MrWright4hire

I'm trying to update my flashplayer in Centos, but having some problems. Nevertheless, I stumbled upon this note. How many of you knew this:
NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux.

If you don't know now you know (censored)!

Dashrender

Does this really matter? Most places are moving to HTML5.

tonyshowoff

@Dashrender Agreed, not only that, Adobe is a crappy company that makes even crappier, bloated, overpriced garbage software. They should've went bankrupt decades ago, but are spurred on by companies willing to pay $9 trillion for software that's got FOSS alternatives which create just as good art/html/video/whatever.

Hell, a year ago at a Best Buy I saw an Adobe Photoshop box for sale in their software section, it was from around 1997, and it was still selling for $999.99. Luckily though, it was Windows 3.11 compatible.

nadnerB

Two things Adobe are known for:

Selling Photoshop
Owning Flash
(multi-level pun there )

tonyshowoff

@nadnerB said:

Two things Adobe are known for:

Selling Photoshop

Owning Flash
(multi-level pun there )

Memory leaks
Making money vanish

MrWright4hire

@tonyshowoff said:
FOSS alternatives which create just as good art/html/video/whatever.

Tony can you give me some insight as to which FOSS is just as good as Adobe product. I really love After Effects. That's one strong program.

tonyshowoff

@MrWright4hire said:

After Effects.

Here are some: http://lifehacker.com/5976725/build-your-own-adobe-creative-suite-with-free-and-cheap-software a few suggestions aren't open source, but still cheaper and still not Adobe.

For After Effects specifically, people seem to recommend http://www.blender.org/ a lot, which is apparently primarily for 3D but can be done for correcting, compositions, and other stuff. Since After Effects is "pretty niche" it may not be as easy to replace, but also apparently a lot of "big shots" use:

http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/nuke/
http://www.autodesk.com/products/maya/overview

for most of the things that After Effects does, from what I can find anyway, but I avoid design like the Black Death, I'm strictly a developer.

MrWright4hire

@tonyshowoff
Thank you Tony for your kindness and support. I'll take a look at those and give you feed back. Thank you again.

Dashrender

I tend to avoid using Adobe products when possible, for example I don't use Photoshop, I use Corel PhotoSuite.

The unfortunate thing is, if you do that kind of stuff professionally, you pretty much must use Photoshop and other Adobe products, they pretty much own the market.

tonyshowoff

@Dashrender From what I've seen that's more of an amateur / pro-amateur belief, sort of like how all through the 90s it was widely believed movies and such could only be made on Macs, when most studios were actually using SGI, this is still a common belief today and may actually be closer to true than it ever was. I do know that some films such as Shrek 3 were made on Linux and FOSS. I'm no expert on this, and absolutely could be wrong, but it seems as though the higher professionals use things like Motion, PowerAnimator, Maya, and whatever else. I think Adobe's gained a mythos about how far they can actually take you, though certainly, I'm sure, there are places in big studios which use Adobe software, it's just not as dominate as they'd want you to believe.

Dashrender

@tonyshowoff said:

@Dashrender From what I've seen that's more of an amateur / pro-amateur belief, sort of like how all through the 90s it was widely believed movies and such could only be made on Macs,

Wait, what?!? you mean that wasn't true? Yeah I knew that wasn't true. But Macs did own the medium/low end option in those days if for no other reason that people believe it to be true, so they bought into it.

scottalanmiller

@Dashrender said:

Does this really matter? Most places are moving to HTML5.

I actually prefer that it is not available, makes for a clean break on the client side and makes it a dead issue on the server side - if you are using Flash, you are intentionally dropping customers. The technology is dead on mobile, it is dead on desktop. It still has a quirky place for very low end internal software development for use in-house but even there it would normally be exceedingly foolish.

nadnerB

Is a flash translator (for browsers) or an easy way to convert www.endofworld.net and the archives of www.albinoblacksheep.com? I'd hate to lose those archives of hilarity.

scottalanmiller

I think that you can keep using Google Chrome, even when Adobe abandons a platform.