Office 2016 preview under NDA
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@IRJ said:
@Reid-Cooper said:
@Dashrender I agree, but MS Office used to be nearly 100% of businesses. I don't know how high, but it was high. You really could just assume that people had it. But Google Apps is in the millions of users now, that's all business users, not including home users. That's just the paying Apps accounts. So that is nearly all people who have that instead of MS Office. That's only a small amount of Microsoft's numbers I am sure, but it isn't a small number either, overall.
But it is the "everyone" having access to Google's apps that I think might be the killer feature. Asking people to have MS Office is a large financial burden. Asking people to have access to Google's apps is free, they just have to open and edit using a free, personal account if they don't have the commercial one or the files can be edited in MS Office, I believe. So it appears, I think, that Google might be winning at the "viral" game of making their apps thrive in more environments. So that it is quickly becoming Google Apps that people are familiar with and have access to in the way that people used to think about MS Office.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said businesses. I see no reason to use MS Office at home anymore. Many of the school districts are adopting Google Docs which give the kids access to submit their homework and edit their docs online. The kid's parents no longer have to buy MS Office.
The same is now true of Office365.
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@IRJ said:
@Reid-Cooper said:
@Dashrender I agree, but MS Office used to be nearly 100% of businesses. I don't know how high, but it was high. You really could just assume that people had it. But Google Apps is in the millions of users now, that's all business users, not including home users. That's just the paying Apps accounts. So that is nearly all people who have that instead of MS Office. That's only a small amount of Microsoft's numbers I am sure, but it isn't a small number either, overall.
But it is the "everyone" having access to Google's apps that I think might be the killer feature. Asking people to have MS Office is a large financial burden. Asking people to have access to Google's apps is free, they just have to open and edit using a free, personal account if they don't have the commercial one or the files can be edited in MS Office, I believe. So it appears, I think, that Google might be winning at the "viral" game of making their apps thrive in more environments. So that it is quickly becoming Google Apps that people are familiar with and have access to in the way that people used to think about MS Office.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said businesses. I see no reason to use MS Office at home anymore. Many of the school districts are adopting Google Docs which give the kids access to submit their homework and edit their docs online. The kid's parents no longer have to buy MS Office.
My nieces switched to Google Docs because they moved to Chromebooks at home. They love it as it is all free, the devices are dirt cheap and they collaborate with their mother on projects. So she can check up on their homework WHILE they are doing it!
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@IRJ said:
I don't know of any large companies (500+ employees) that don't use Microsoft office. I am sure there are some that don't, but I have yet to see any.
Apple, Oracle, Google, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
I don't know of any large companies (500+ employees) that don't use Microsoft office. I am sure there are some that don't, but I have yet to see any.
Apple, Oracle, Google, etc.
Those companies all have their own Office suites.....
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@IRJ said:
Those companies all have their own Office suites.....
Well, two of them do. But they are also some of the world's biggest companies and a lot of smaller ones follow their leads. Apple makes their own OS too, but doesn't run on it. They run on Linux primarily and AIX secondary. (Apple uses Apple laptops, obviously.)
But they also demonstrate that huge companies don't have a reliance on MS Office as much as people assume.
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Roche (where @dominica and @katie used to work) is on Google Apps. They are a 90,000 seat global pharmaceutical. Pretty big there.
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Woolworth's and Virgin, two huge players.
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BBVA, the big Spanish bank, is on Google Apps.
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Change, where I am, is on Google Apps. They are not large enough to qualify for this list here yet, but are expected to be way larger than you are looking for (and still on Apps) by later this year.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
Those companies all have their own Office suites.....
Well, two of them do. But they are also some of the world's biggest companies and a lot of smaller ones follow their leads. Apple makes their own OS too, but doesn't run on it. They run on Linux primarily and AIX secondary. (Apple uses Apple laptops, obviously.)
But they also demonstrate that huge companies don't have a reliance on MS Office as much as people assume.
This is an older article, but its an interesting read on the subject
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/Microsoft-Office-Still-Tops-the-Charts/story.xhtml?story_id=11300CMAFY18I think compatibility is the key. I don't use Google Docs so I don't know how compatible it is with MS Office.
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I bet that Zoho could hop in here with a list of large customers of their own too. They are a direct competitor with Google Apps and are active here on ML.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I bet that Zoho could hop in here with a list of large customers of their own too. They are a direct competitor with Google Apps and are active here on ML.
I actually like Zoho alot for my personal use. They offer free email that is much better than standard webmail
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@IRJ said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I bet that Zoho could hop in here with a list of large customers of their own too. They are a direct competitor with Google Apps and are active here on ML.
I actually like Zoho alot for my personal use. They offer free email that is much better than standard webmail
They offer 25 accounts free for business right now. I bet we'll get some info about that tomorrow!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
@scottalanmiller said:
I bet that Zoho could hop in here with a list of large customers of their own too. They are a direct competitor with Google Apps and are active here on ML.
I actually like Zoho alot for my personal use. They offer free email that is much better than standard webmail
They offer 25 accounts free for business right now. I bet we'll get some info about that tomorrow!
I have used it on my domains and I love it.
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@scottalanmiller said:
They offer 25 accounts free for business right now. I bet we'll get some info about that tomorrow!
@IRJ said:
I have used it on my domains and I love it.
I have Google Apps grandfathered in from when it was free for my daerma.com domain and my Uncle's salvage yard domain. I was debating setting something up to handle my other domains, but now I will look at Zoho for that.
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NTG has a sub-domain grandfathered with Google Apps too.
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I use Zoho, on my personal domain, for webmail, works very well. I haven't touched their documents suite though. I went through most of my high school and all of my college (undergrad and grad) with just Google Apps. Sending in files as a PDF was the solution to things not being compatible. Now though I don't think I've had a problem in recent years with incompatibility.
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I'm going to go ahead and sign my life away and try it out.
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I'd say let us know what you think of it, but NDA...
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@Doughnut said:
I'm going to go ahead and sign my life away and try it out.
Only applies till it goes GA, so not that bad really
