1984 is Here, Samsung Smart TV is Monitoring You
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And my phone goes to Apple, not a third party, even if I turned it on.
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As long as they don't force me to believe 2+2=5, that the chocolate rations have increased when they actually decreased or that we are actually in a perpetual war with Eastasia...then I'm good...
Wait, all that could be happening right now...just in different forms...eeeeeee!
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@garak0410 said:
As long as they don't force me to believe 2+2=5, that the chocolate rations have increased when they actually decreased or that we are actually in a perpetual war with Eastasia...then I'm good...
Wait, all that could be happening right now...just in different forms...eeeeeee!
Nice - I'm really glad I read that book - oh and also completely terrified because of how true it is!
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@Dashrender said:
@garak0410 said:
As long as they don't force me to believe 2+2=5, that the chocolate rations have increased when they actually decreased or that we are actually in a perpetual war with Eastasia...then I'm good...
Wait, all that could be happening right now...just in different forms...eeeeeee!
Nice - I'm really glad I read that book - oh and also completely terrified because of how true it is!
The scariest stuff goes way far beyond surveillance...and the John Hurt version of the movie is perfect...don't remake it! Please!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
You realize your phone is already doing this as well, right?
I, for one, don't use voice recognition on my phone.
I really doubt that matters. It's listening wither or not you use the technology. As for it only going to Apple, what's to say Apple isn't selling/giving it to someone else?
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@Dashrender said:
I really doubt that matters. It's listening wither or not you use the technology. As for it only going to Apple, what's to say Apple isn't selling/giving it to someone else?
I think that that is a level of paranoid that isn't reasonable. Apple has the largest fortune in human history on the line. If they got caught selling that kind of info the damage would be orders of magnitude greater than the value of selling it. It would cost Apple so much and have gained them appreciably nothing. It's not a reasonable fear unless they have stated that they are doing such.
When you need to fear it is when companies have either told you it is so (like Samsung) or you are dealing with a small company that does not rely on reputation who has "nothing to lose" and selling your data might be the bases of their income. Just corporate empathy is enough to see that Apple and Amazon are among the safest possible places for your data to be. They base their fortunes, which are huge, on people trusting them.
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@garak0410 said:
The scariest stuff goes way far beyond surveillance...and the John Hurt version of the movie is perfect...don't remake it! Please!
The book was perfect... please don't make a movie of it. Oh wait, too late
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@Dashrender said:
You realize your phone is already doing this as well, right?
Probably, but I only have my data pack and GPS on when I need them (Sorry Microsoft).
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@scottalanmiller said:
I think that that is a level of paranoid that isn't reasonable. Apple has the largest fortune in human history on the line. If they got caught selling that kind of info the damage would be orders of magnitude greater than the value of selling it. It would cost Apple so much and have gained them appreciably nothing. It's not a reasonable fear unless they have stated that they are doing such.
When you need to fear it is when companies have either told you it is so (like Samsung) or you are dealing with a small company that does not rely on reputation who has "nothing to lose" and selling your data might be the bases of their income. Just corporate empathy is enough to see that Apple and Amazon are among the safest possible places for your data to be. They base their fortunes, which are huge, on people trusting them.
Unless someone "accidentally" found the key to the backdoor...
lol, sorry. I couldn't resist. I'll stop feeding into the paranoia now -
@scottalanmiller said:
And my phone goes to Apple, not a third party, even if I turned it on.
How do you know? And how do you know Apple doesn't turn around and sell info to 3rd parties?
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And my phone goes to Apple, not a third party, even if I turned it on.
How do you know? And how do you know Apple doesn't turn around and sell info to 3rd parties?
I think he may have answered that already....
@scottalanmiller said:
I think that that is a level of paranoid that isn't reasonable. Apple has the largest fortune in human history on the line. If they got caught selling that kind of info the damage would be orders of magnitude greater than the value of selling it. It would cost Apple so much and have gained them appreciably nothing. It's not a reasonable fear unless they have stated that they are doing such.
When you need to fear it is when companies have either told you it is so (like Samsung) or you are dealing with a small company that does not rely on reputation who has "nothing to lose" and selling your data might be the bases of their income. Just corporate empathy is enough to see that Apple and Amazon are among the safest possible places for your data to be. They base their fortunes, which are huge, on people trusting them.
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And my phone goes to Apple, not a third party, even if I turned it on.
How do you know? And how do you know Apple doesn't turn around and sell info to 3rd parties?
See my above response explaining that.
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Remember, any device with the capability to record you .... has the capability to record you. Every phone, every TV, every computer, etc. has the ability to do what we are worried about here. The fear of someone like Apple or Amazon who does NOT say that they are selling your data is a fear that they are doing something illegal. If that is the fear, they could be doing it already and none of this matters.
The thing about Samsung is not that they are doing it illegally but they are stating that it could (or will) happen. If your fear is that people will do something reckless and illegal then you've gone over the line where none of this matters and you need to eliminate all of the technology from your life. If you are not getting into tin foil hat territory, then Apple and Amazon and Microsoft are cleared of reasonable suspicion because they have too much on the line (more than most countries), nothing to gain and have no statements saying that they reserve the right to do this.
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Their latest fuckup is inserting ads into movies you are watching through Plex and other apps just streaming local content. Samsung is not just screwing the pooch, they're gangbanging it.
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@Nic That just makes me want to avoid buying Samsung products altogether.
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I'm more and more disinclined!
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No kidding.
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I wonder if Samsung is going to notice an appreciable drop in sales from all of this. If it is enough to cross a threshold for me for considering them to purchase, I imagine that many people also cross that threshold.
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Yeah they are off my list as well. I just don't need to talk to my TV... I'm ok using the remote.
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I prefer my TVs to be "dumb", just monitors. I want to hook devices to them. AppleTV, Roku, PS3, computer, whatever. I want to choose the technology, I like my display to just be a display.
