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    Is the End Near for Windows Phone?

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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller yeah, I remember you said that about 5 months or so ago.
      It's a case of same crap, different bucket.

      You're fortunate to have bought a Lumia. I feel bad for those with non-Lumia handsets. They don't seem to get the same level of service out of Microsoft... either that or they are less loved by their creators cough Samsung Ativ cough HTC cough

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Yes, the Lumia was good hardware. But not good enough to make the phone desirable.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen
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          The I still have a Windows phone sitting around for testing on. The newer software updates make it a bit more stable and decent. However the windows store is still sucky though :(. Really not the greatest options there.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            The store really undermines it significantly. It's hard to describe just how useless and dangerous the phone is until you try to get common software and realize the store is nothing but a way to get malware onto your phone.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom
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              Used a Windows phone once....was very happy when I went back to my Galaxy. Took me months to get used to the WP8. Was used to my Android again after 2 days. I just need cared for the interface, which was always so backwards in so many ways. @nadnerB I would not ever go to a Windows 8 Phone again by choice.

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @thanksajdotcom
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                @thanksaj said:

                Used a Windows phone once....was very happy when I went back to my Galaxy. Took me months to get used to the WP8. Was used to my Android again after 2 days. I just need cared for the interface, which was always so backwards in so many ways. @nadnerB I would not ever go to a Windows 8 Phone again by choice.

                Yeah, I remember that from the last time that WP 8.1 etc was discussed.
                The only good 'droids are the flagship models. I may as well buy an iPhone

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                  @nadnerB said:

                  The only good 'droids are the flagship models. I may as well buy an iPhone

                  Yes, that seems to be true. You need an Android phone with a ton of investment and a ton of ongoing support or they have major issues.

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                  • nadnerBN
                    nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @nadnerB said:

                    The only good 'droids are the flagship models. I may as well buy an iPhone

                    Yes, that seems to be true. You need an Android phone with a ton of investment and a ton of ongoing support or they have major issues.

                    Also, at less than a moments notice, your droid can be considered "old hat" by the manufacturer and the updates stop... either that or they stuffed the design and left you stranded cough HTC Desire cough

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @nadnerB said:

                      The only good 'droids are the flagship models. I may as well buy an iPhone

                      Yes, that seems to be true. You need an Android phone with a ton of investment and a ton of ongoing support or they have major issues.

                      I won't disagree with that. If you buy the knock-offs, you're going to get a crappy phone. But that's not really different from other products on the market.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                        @thanksaj said:

                        I won't disagree with that. If you buy the knock-offs, you're going to get a crappy phone. But that's not really different from other products on the market.

                        They aren't knock offs. Android is the platform and all Androids are equally Androids.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                          @nadnerB said:

                          Also, at less than a moments notice, your droid can be considered "old hat" by the manufacturer and the updates stop... either that or they stuffed the design and left you stranded cough HTC Desire cough

                          Yeah, the upgrade support on them is horrible.

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                          • nadnerBN
                            nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @thanksaj said:

                            I won't disagree with that. If you buy the knock-offs, you're going to get a crappy phone. But that's not really different from other products on the market.

                            They aren't knock offs. Android is the platform and all Androids are equally Androids.

                            Except that most of them are crap 😛

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                              @nadnerB said:

                              Except that most of them are crap 😛

                              Sure, but they aren't knock offs.

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @thanksaj said:

                                I won't disagree with that. If you buy the knock-offs, you're going to get a crappy phone. But that's not really different from other products on the market.

                                They aren't knock offs. Android is the platform and all Androids are equally Androids.

                                It's true they all run Android, but if you put a cheap $300 Gateway machine against a $1500 HP machine and said "well they both run Windows", how is that any different? A product is good if it is strong in all ways. If you have a solid OS/firmware, but crappy hardware, then yeah, it's gonna suck. That's why people who want a good Android phone don't buy the "generic" Android phones. You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksaj said:

                                  It's true they all run Android, but if you put a cheap $300 Gateway machine against a $1500 HP machine and said "well they both run Windows", how is that any different? A product is good if it is strong in all ways. If you have a solid OS/firmware, but crappy hardware, then yeah, it's gonna suck. That's why people who want a good Android phone don't buy the "generic" Android phones. You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.

                                  Gateway is not a knock off of HP though. Both are fully PCs. HP is just as much a knock off of Gateway in that logic. Knock off means something specific that doesn't apply to generic devices like PCs or Android phones.

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                                  • nadnerBN
                                    nadnerB @thanksajdotcom
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                                    @thanksaj said:

                                    You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.

                                    Ah, no thanks. I've seen issues with those three

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                                      @nadnerB said:

                                      @thanksaj said:

                                      You buy a Samsung, Moto, HTC, etc.

                                      Ah, no thanks. I've seen issues with those three

                                      Here too, none of them were reliable for us.

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                                      • Minion QueenM
                                        Minion Queen
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                                        I have seen the newer Samsung's be a bit more stable. However it depends on how the person is using it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          They are improving, I'm sure. As Android matures and the manufacturing volume increases they must be getting better.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 that I picked up the Summer of 2013. About 8 months ago it really started having issues, so I had to back up everything, (moving Google Authenticator is a HUGE pain) and wipe it. It was good again for around 4 months and I've been just dealing with it since then.

                                            I probably have around 30 non standard apps installed, mostly airline apps, a few store apps (like Starbucks) and it just in general seems to suck. I'm working if I overheated it by running it hard one day and now it is bad in some way..

                                            Not to mention that under normal use I get around 8 hours of battery life right now, and if I'm traveling, I get way less - constantly find myself looking for a wall outlet.

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