Commercial Desktops vs. Whiteboxes
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@scottalanmiller said:
Generally, i7 is better than i5 is better than i3. But there are a LOT of factors. They are not architectures, they are brands. Intel used to only have Pentium and Celeron. Now it is more complex. And even back then, there were Celerons that were much faster than Pentiums. Processors are just a much more complicated topic than can ever be distilled to "you need X for that."
I know it's not just "Oh, an i7 is better than an i5 which is better than an i3". I am aware of i3 CPUs that could destroy an i5. Both in terms of computers I've used and computers I've worked on, I've just seen better times for opening programs, switching between programs, etc on i5 CPUs, as a rule, than i3 CPUs. It's from a wide-range of experience. As I said, I'm not denying what you've said. That's just what I've seen.
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@MattSpeller Very much parts I would have chosen
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@Mike-Ralston said:
@MattSpeller Very much parts I would have chosen
No one has given me a budget yet, though.That makes a HUGE difference! LOL
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@Mike-Ralston said:
@MattSpeller Very much parts I would have chosen
No one has given me a budget yet, though.We don't work from budgets. Budgets encourage bad spending. We buy what is the best for the use case.
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@Mike-Ralston Well make a good case for decent systems and get back to us!! The one I listed is the sweet spot for the $700-800 budget box IMHO - I can testify that it works a treat as I have almost exactly that at home.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Mike-Ralston said:
@MattSpeller Very much parts I would have chosen
No one has given me a budget yet, though.We don't work from budgets. Budgets encourage bad spending. We buy what is the best for the use case.
Well the best use for the case would be to spend $14K on a PC, and give it a 16 Core Intel, with dual GTX Titan Z's, and Dual Radeon HD 7990's, both in separate Video loops...
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@scottalanmiller For what you want, you shouldn't have to spend more than $600, and that's if we put the extra money in to make it look pretty.
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If these are desktops - why a SSHD? Other than some performance - what benefit does a desktop get from installing a SSHD?
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@g.jacobse said:
If these are desktops - why a SSHD? Other than some performance - what benefit does a desktop get from installing a SSHD?
You are understating the performance gains from install an SSD.
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@coliver said:
@g.jacobse said:
If these are desktops - why a SSHD? Other than some performance - what benefit does a desktop get from installing a SSHD?
You are understating the performance gains from install an SSD.
Agreed 100% - you can take a crusty old beaten up E6400 w/ 4gb ram + i5 and make it fly with a decent SSD.
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SSDs...once you get one, you NEVER go back...you can't...it's just wrong to have anything else once you've experienced SSDs!
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Especially with how cheap they've gotten @g.jacobse , why WOULDN'T you go with an SSD? Also, they are talking full SSDs, not hybrids.
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@g.jacobse said:
If these are desktops - why a SSHD? Other than some performance - what benefit does a desktop get from installing a SSHD?
I've guessing you've never used one in a desktop. It's the single biggest difference in usability I've ever seen. If I had to choose between a fast machine with HD or a ten year old machine with a good SSD.... old machine it is. It's amazing what an SSD does. Until you use one you really don't appreciate how much of a bottleneck a spinning drive is!
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@MattSpeller said:
Agreed 100% - you can take a crusty old beaten up E6400 w/ 4gb ram + i5 and make it fly with a decent SSD.
We have many HP dc5850s which are AMD Phenom II X3 triple core with 4GB or 6GB of RAM. Sounds slow, but because we use 25K IOPS and higher SSDs in them, they are quite snappy for most tasks. It was like going to light speed when we replaced the 7200 RPM drives with the SSDs.
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@scottalanmiller Yes, the SSD was the best upgrade of the last few years. Even today it's (in some cases) much better to upgrade your fleet with SSD over getting new hardware without SSD.
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I am running an phenom 1100T at work and it works very well. Great processor
At home I have an FX-8350 and I love it. I tend to be an AMD fangirl but that's because for the money, I think they are great. Yes, I can agree that Intel makes a good processor but for the money, Ill chose AMD hands down every single time. -
@bbiAngie said:
I am running an phenom 1100T at work and it works very well. Great processor
At home I have an FX-8350 and I love it. I tend to be an AMD fangirl but that's because for the money, I think they are great. Yes, I can agree that Intel makes a good processor but for the money, Ill chose AMD hands down every single time.I agree. Don't get me wrong...I love my 3rd gen i7 in my laptop...and Intel does tend to run cooler in laptops than AMDs, but AMD is so much cheaper and, bang to buck, I still say AMD is overall a better buy.
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@bbiAngie said:
I am running an phenom 1100T at work and it works very well. Great processor
At home I have an FX-8350 and I love it. I tend to be an AMD fangirl but that's because for the money, I think they are great. Yes, I can agree that Intel makes a good processor but for the money, Ill chose AMD hands down every single time.Nailed it right there. AMD is king of the $150 or less CPU market.
Have to say though, the new Intel G3258 is tempting @ $70 (unlocked dual core, people OC to ~4ghz+ for gaming)
http://ark.intel.com/products/82723/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G3258-3M-Cache-3_20-GHz
