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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • garak0410G
      garak0410 @Dashrender
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      @Dashrender said:

      As long as you don't have any NT servers or workstations connecting you should be good.

      I was concerned that maybe my XP machines might have an issue, but there hasn't been one!

      Click install.

      Clicking on INSTALL. I will not be demoting the old one until Friday evening...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Why demote so soon? I would wait a bit longer than that.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          You have at least 15 days if not longer before this server will start shutting down on it's own. Give yourself plenty of time to make sure all things work.

          Did you setup DHCP for the client computers?

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          • Bill KindleB
            Bill Kindle
            last edited by

            Definitely wait a little while. My rule of thumb is no less than a week, even in really small environments. Gives me enough time to verify that there are no replication issues going on.

            Garak is giving me some 70-410 practice over on another forum 🙂

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410
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              It's looking good y'all! I'm gonna buy everyone pizza or coffee when this is done!

              The next step on my list is this:

              •Transfer FSMO Roles to new Server 2012 R2 Domain Controller
              â—¾Transfer all 5 or one at a time and start demoting your old Server 2003 DC's in the next step. But the key to remember is to NOT demote any of the current domain controllers that have any of your FSMO roles on them. Be sure to transfer them off first before proceeding to DC demotion.
              â—¾http://blogs.technet.com/b/canitpro/archive/2013/05/27/step-by-step-active-directory-migration-from-windows-server-2003-to-windows-server-2012.aspx

              Stick with this?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                You have at least 15 days if not longer before this server will start shutting down on it's own. Give yourself plenty of time to make sure all things work.

                90 days I think. Need to look that up.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  And the timer doesn't start when this one is added. It starts when the FSMO roles are moved.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410
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                    OK, so what is really recommended next? Run off both DC's for a good while? Since my old DC was my file server as well, I am wanting to get that moved. So perhaps move on to that this Friday evening. That is where the DHCP may come into play. And changing some of our messy VBA apps code to point to new file server.

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410
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                      Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

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                      • NetworkNerdN
                        NetworkNerd @garak0410
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                        @garak0410 said:

                        Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                        Something like this should suffice: robocopy /mir /sec /secfix "source" "destination"

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                          @garak0410 said:

                          Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                          It will keep permissions.

                          What do you mean by echoing a server name?

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @garak0410
                            last edited by

                            @garak0410 said:

                            Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                            I am running a robocopy from an old file server to a new one right now. I have been slowly robycopying everything over to the new server. Yes it will keep all the permissions.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @garak0410
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                              @garak0410 said:

                              Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                              After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said:

                                @garak0410 said:

                                Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                                After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                                CNAME (alias) he means.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @IRJ said:

                                  @garak0410 said:

                                  Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                                  After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                                  CNAME (alias) he means.

                                  yeah exactly. Its been a long day

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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410 @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @garak0410 said:

                                    Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                                    After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                                    CNAME (alias) he means.

                                    yeah exactly. Its been a long day

                                    Heck...that makes my life easier for now. I could even complete this tonight if I didn't have to play Soccer Dad.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I told you about using the CNAME process at the beginning of this process 😉

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                                      • garak0410G
                                        garak0410
                                        last edited by

                                        My RoboCopy tests have proven to be good so far. I see the domain level permissions! 🙂

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                                        • garak0410G
                                          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          I told you about using the CNAME process at the beginning of this process 😉

                                          My memory is fading when I spend 2 hours trying to explain to our office manager why scanning in a 500 page project in our copier make it run out of memory and I cannot change that fact... 😞

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            You can only use the CNAME after you turn off the old server.

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