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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      That picture didn't seem to upload.

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      • garak0410G
        garak0410
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        Looks like picture didn't attach well...basically showing 25 minutes to copy just 82 meg from my PC to the drive on VM2, that will eventually be our main file server drive. In addition, task manager shows 89% memory usage (of the 4GB allocated and on dynamic)...about to reboot the VM2 and see what happens but this is scary.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @garak0410
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          @garak0410 look at the tcp offload settings. I am not at a place to look at the client where I had the same problem. but there is a setting in hyper-v manager that I had to change then reboot everything in order get get the network to perform correctly.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @garak0410
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            @garak0410 said:

            Looks like picture didn't attach well...

            image button uploads images to imgur. If you know the link you can edit the post to do it manually.
            remove the extra whitespace I added to make it show
            ! [image.jpg] ( http : //domain.com/image.jpg )

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @garak0410 look at the tcp offload settings. I am not at a place to look at the client where I had the same problem. but there is a setting in hyper-v manager that I had to change then reboot everything in order get get the network to perform correctly.

              So I should turn off the TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 on both virtual adapters?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @garak0410
                  last edited by

                  @garak0410 said:

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @garak0410 look at the tcp offload settings. I am not at a place to look at the client where I had the same problem. but there is a setting in hyper-v manager that I had to change then reboot everything in order get get the network to perform correctly.

                  So I should turn off the TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 on both virtual adapters?

                  Just logged into that server. It was VMQ that I had to disable. I think it was on by default and I never checked if it was supported or not. The users were screaming down my back so I just disabled it.

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                  • garak0410G
                    garak0410 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @garak0410 said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @garak0410 look at the tcp offload settings. I am not at a place to look at the client where I had the same problem. but there is a setting in hyper-v manager that I had to change then reboot everything in order get get the network to perform correctly.

                    So I should turn off the TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 on both virtual adapters?

                    Just logged into that server. It was VMQ that I had to disable. I think it was on by default and I never checked if it was supported or not. The users were screaming down my back so I just disabled it.

                    OK I'll check that because turning off TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 has no effect and was even show to delete files from that drive...took 3 minutes to delete 10 meg...

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410 @garak0410
                      last edited by

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @garak0410 said:

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @garak0410 look at the tcp offload settings. I am not at a place to look at the client where I had the same problem. but there is a setting in hyper-v manager that I had to change then reboot everything in order get get the network to perform correctly.

                      So I should turn off the TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 on both virtual adapters?

                      Just logged into that server. It was VMQ that I had to disable. I think it was on by default and I never checked if it was supported or not. The users were screaming down my back so I just disabled it.

                      OK I'll check that because turning off TCP Checksum offload for IPv4 has no effect and was even show to delete files from that drive...took 3 minutes to delete 10 meg...

                      Is turning off VMQ a command line or a GUI option? Not seeing it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                        Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

                        Are you sure? Microsoft just recommended that two weeks ago on SW.

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                        • garak0410G
                          garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                          Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

                          Are you sure? Microsoft just recommended that two weeks ago on SW.

                          Well, something is causing extreme slowness just copying a file from my PC to the drive on my VM2 (services01). Horrendous. Is it network or VDISK related? I have a week now but got to get this resolved right away.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            Honestly just install ESXi or XenServer. They aren't all weird and picky like HyperV.

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                            • garak0410G
                              garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Honestly just install ESXi or XenServer. They aren't all weird and picky like HyperV.

                              You may be right...and may be crazy! LOL...I had a network engineer tell me last night to just say physical in my environment...love the varied opinions I get. 🙂

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                A network engineer isn't a discipline that would know anything about this nor understand the ramifications.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  HyperV is the hardest to use and biggest learning curve. Install XenServer and see if that just fixes everything for you.

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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    A network engineer isn't a discipline that would know anything about this nor understand the ramifications.

                                    OH, I know...just enjoyed his perspective. At least I don't have to pull his long hours and sometimes crazy on-call schedules.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @garak0410
                                      last edited by

                                      @garak0410 said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                                      Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

                                      Are you sure? Microsoft just recommended that two weeks ago on SW.

                                      Well, something is causing extreme slowness just copying a file from my PC to the drive on my VM2 (services01). Horrendous. Is it network or VDISK related? I have a week now but got to get this resolved right away.

                                      I did turn off VMQ on the Physical Adapters and bam! Normal Speeds! 🙂 In fact, then testing one of our apps, making it's work directory a folder on the VM, I got a 3 second increase compared to physical drives on our current server and the hypervisor...finally, some success! LOL

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @JaredBusch said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                                        Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

                                        Are you sure? Microsoft just recommended that two weeks ago on SW.

                                        When I rolled out a server in November, yes this was the case. I have not read up about any changes as I have no Hyper-V installs pending. I will state, that I did attempt to install to the built in RAID1 SD in the Dell server then and that failed. That led to my searching which stated that it was not possible except for a limited OEM version that was not published.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @garak0410
                                          last edited by

                                          @garak0410 said:

                                          @garak0410 said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          This is where installing to USB is recommended. Just have a spare USB copy laying around.

                                          Except you cannot install Server 2012 + Hyper-V to a USB.

                                          Are you sure? Microsoft just recommended that two weeks ago on SW.

                                          Well, something is causing extreme slowness just copying a file from my PC to the drive on my VM2 (services01). Horrendous. Is it network or VDISK related? I have a week now but got to get this resolved right away.

                                          I did turn off VMQ on the Physical Adapters and bam! Normal Speeds! 🙂 In fact, then testing one of our apps, making it's work directory a folder on the VM, I got a 3 second increase compared to physical drives on our current server and the hypervisor...finally, some success! LOL

                                          Oh good Whoo hoo. HyperV should perform extremely well. Windows is built to run on it.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            Okay. So now for backups.

                                            In what way is Unitrends appearing to not be the right solution? What is it lacking in the free version?

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