What is Your Chocolatey List


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    We use Chocolatey to make package management easier. We are a relatively small company and Chocolatey is perfect as it completely manages a lot of the non-Microsoft software packages that we use every day. But there are tons of packages in Chocolatey, which ones do you include in your standard install that would make life easier?


  • Service Provider

    I'll put together our own list here:

    • notepadplusplus
    • 7zip
    • putty
    • libreoffice
    • atom
    • greenshot


  • I need to dig into this more. A free/near free way to deploy updates to things like Java/Adobe Reader/Adobe flash, would be awesome.


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    @Dashrender said:

    I need to dig into this more. A free/near free way to deploy updates to things like Java/Adobe Reader/Adobe flash, would be awesome.

    I agree. with that completely. I have a client that uses a program that requires the full java install. I hate that Oracle bundles crapware into the updates.


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    @Dashrender said:

    I need to dig into this more. A free/near free way to deploy updates to things like Java/Adobe Reader/Adobe flash, would be awesome.

    Those are all included in Chocolatey's repository. We just don't include them as standard as we avoid Java and Flash as default deployments. We should really move Reader to Chocolatey, though, as that is something that it would handle better than Reader's own updater.



  • Well I totally missed the part where Chocolatey manages the updates to these programs too. Is the update part manual or automatic?


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    @technobabble manual but you can update every package that Chocolatey handles with a single command (cup). Three letters and the whole program list updates.

    So very easy to script, schedule or run remotely.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @technobabble manual but you can update every package that Chocolatey handles with a single command (cup). Three letters and the whole program list updates.

    So very easy to script, schedule or run remotely.

    Not to be confused with CUPS (common unix printing system)...lol



  • I need to get into this. I use PDQ but it's not command line, so not automated. I'm guessing Chocolatey a better solution than NiNite?



  • @Carnival-Boy said:

    I need to get into this. I use PDQ but it's not command line, so not automated. I'm guessing Chocolatey a better solution than NiNite?

    Chocolately is all CLI AFAIK. Ninite has a pretty GUI.



  • @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.



  • @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.


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    @Carnival-Boy said:

    I need to get into this. I use PDQ but it's not command line, so not automated. I'm guessing Chocolatey a better solution than NiNite?

    I've not used NiNite. I hear that that is good too.


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    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.

    I want to say that Ninite is like $2/machine/year or something insanely cheap like that. I know they do volume discounts but I can't remember their exact pricing structure.


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    @ajstringham said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.

    I want to say that Ninite is like $2/machine/year or something insanely cheap like that. I know they do volume discounts but I can't remember their exact pricing structure.

    Sort of. $240/year for up to 100 devices. So if you have 1 device, it is $240. Only people with exactly 100 devices get down to $2.40/device. Average cost per device would be much higher. It's a bizarre pricing scheme. If you have 101 devices it jumps to $600/year. So realistically you never come anywhere close to the $2-3/year range.

    $4-6 / device / year isn't horrible, but compared to free, it's not nothing. And maintaining licensing agreements has its own overhead.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.

    I want to say that Ninite is like $2/machine/year or something insanely cheap like that. I know they do volume discounts but I can't remember their exact pricing structure.

    Sort of. $240/year for up to 100 devices. So if you have 1 device, it is $240. Only people with exactly 100 devices get down to $2.40/device. Average cost per device would be much higher. It's a bizarre pricing scheme. If you have 101 devices it jumps to $600/year. So realistically you never come anywhere close to the $2-3/year range.

    $4-6 / device / year isn't horrible, but compared to free, it's not nothing. And maintaining licensing agreements has its own overhead.

    Yeah. I LOVE Ninite, the free version, for home. I use it to update my programs and deploy a set of programs to computers all the time, without bloatware, etc.

    Also, considering that most people aren't going to use something like this with less than 15-20 devices, minimum, it drops down to closer to $1 than $2/device/month, which isn't bad.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.

    I want to say that Ninite is like $2/machine/year or something insanely cheap like that. I know they do volume discounts but I can't remember their exact pricing structure.

    Sort of. $240/year for up to 100 devices. So if you have 1 device, it is $240. Only people with exactly 100 devices get down to $2.40/device. Average cost per device would be much higher. It's a bizarre pricing scheme. If you have 101 devices it jumps to $600/year. So realistically you never come anywhere close to the $2-3/year range.

    $4-6 / device / year isn't horrible, but compared to free, it's not nothing. And maintaining licensing agreements has its own overhead.

    Exactly, and I find myself in that boat. I have 110 devices, Definitely getting the short end of the stick for the $600 cost.

    Though I do agree it's not an outrageous price.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @ajstringham said:

    @coliver said:

    @ajstringham It does have a GUI available although it is fairly simple. Do choco install ChocolateyExplorer, although that does get rid of some of the more powerful aspects of Chocolatey.

    I looked at Ninite Pro once. It is pretty sweet.

    Chocolatey is completely free, which is pretty nice. All open source. It is similar to a yum or apt repo.

    I want to say that Ninite is like $2/machine/year or something insanely cheap like that. I know they do volume discounts but I can't remember their exact pricing structure.

    Sort of. $240/year for up to 100 devices. So if you have 1 device, it is $240. Only people with exactly 100 devices get down to $2.40/device. Average cost per device would be much higher. It's a bizarre pricing scheme. If you have 101 devices it jumps to $600/year. So realistically you never come anywhere close to the $2-3/year range.

    $4-6 / device / year isn't horrible, but compared to free, it's not nothing. And maintaining licensing agreements has its own overhead.

    Exactly, and I find myself in that boat. I have 110 devices, Definitely getting the short end of the stick for the $600 cost.

    Though I do agree it's not an outrageous price.

    With 110 devices, at $50/month, or $600/year, you're looking at about $0.45/device/month, so less than $6/device/year. Ninite integrates with AD too, from what they say. It's a cool tool.



  • @ajstringham said:>

    With 110 devices, at $50/month, or $600/year, you're looking at about $0.45/device/month, so less than $6/device/year. Ninite integrates with AD too, from what they say. It's a cool tool.

    Sure, that's not the point - the point is - If I had 100 or less, the price would be $250, or $2.50/device/year or $0.21/device/month.

    Just going over 100 more than doubled my price.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @ajstringham said:>

    With 110 devices, at $50/month, or $600/year, you're looking at about $0.45/device/month, so less than $6/device/year. Ninite integrates with AD too, from what they say. It's a cool tool.

    Sure, that's not the point - the point is - If I had 100 or less, the price would be $250, or $2.50/device/year or $0.21/device/month.

    Just going over 100 more than doubled my price.

    Yeah, this is true.


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    @Dashrender said:

    Sure, that's not the point - the point is - If I had 100 or less, the price would be $250, or $2.50/device/year or $0.21/device/month.

    Just going over 100 more than doubled my price.

    If you had 100 it would be $2.50/device. If you only have one it is $250/device!!



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    Sure, that's not the point - the point is - If I had 100 or less, the price would be $250, or $2.50/device/year or $0.21/device/month.

    Just going over 100 more than doubled my price.

    If you had 100 it would be $2.50/device. If you only have one it is $250/device!!

    In a business this is true - but I'd probably cheat and use the free version for 1 device - or why would I bother with it at all :) lol



  • I don't like that kind of pricing structure where some people get a great price and others get a bad one, at random like that.



  • I like it. It keeps administration simple.

    I'm finding keeping a check on the number of licences or devices we have for all our subscription contracts a bit of a ball-ache - InTune, GFI Mailmax, Adobe CC, Autodesk, O365, TrendMicro antivirus....the list gets longer and longer. Sometimes I like to just pay a set fee and forget about it.



  • @Carnival-Boy the Ninite style pricing only works out easier if you fall into a category where you safely won't grow past another pricing tier limit. Otherwise you have the bad pricing plus all of the monitoring and auditing work of other pricing options.


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    GreenShot



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    GreenShot

    Is that going to go onto your official list?


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    @StrongBad said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    GreenShot

    Is that going to go onto your official list?

    Good point.


  • Service Provider

    Fixed


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