Kinda Wish I Was in Austin...
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@scottalanmiller said:
@IRJ said:
@ajstringham said:
Ok, so assuming I interview and land the job, and maybe they let me start in February, which is all speculative at this point, what is the cheapest way to move a small apartment's worth of stuff?
At this point, I would say do the interview and land the job. Then figure it out. No sense in thinking too hard about it when you may not even score the job.
That is how I operate too. I am a perceiver, not a planner (aka the judger.) Move forward, tackle the issues as they come. Don't plan for situations that don't exist yet. If you get the job, you will figure out the other stuff. There are millions of factors that you know nothing about yet such as if you want the job, how much it pays, when they would need you to start, if you can work from home for a while, are there showers in the office, can you break your lease, etc. Once you land the job you will have the information necessary. Any planning done now is wasted effort for a situation not likely to be an issue.
Judgers need to plan things and often start planning for scenarios that will almost certainly never exist because they like to develop as many plans in their mind as possible because they struggle to see opportunities happen in real time
I definitely overplan for everything.
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@Dominica said:
@SarawithanH I would say that your Dad's reaction is because he's a planner, like me.
I was thinking the same thing as I read that. Judgers and Perceivers struggle to understand each other. I literally have no ability to plan. I cannot do it. That part of my brain is completely missing. But if forces me to live in the moment and build an ability to react to pretty much anything because there is no other way for me to handle it.
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I'm going to follow-up with the contact I have at Spiceworks and tell her I'm interested in pursuing the opportunity. Maybe I do just need to live in the moment more. I was much more spontaneous when I was younger but have become a lot more like my father as I've gotten older.
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@scottalanmiller And I need to imagine every scenario and possible outcome, and plan my reaction to each possibility. I think one of the reasons we make a good team is that we temper the other's tendencies to be at extreme ends of the spectrum.
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@Dominica said:
@scottalanmiller And I need to imagine every scenario and possible outcome, and plan my reaction to each possibility. I think one of the reasons we make a good team is that we temper the other's tendencies to be at extreme ends of the spectrum.
Like how I don't plan paths when driving, I just start the car moving and figure it out from there.
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@Dominica said:
@scottalanmiller And I need to imagine every scenario and possible outcome, and plan my reaction to each possibility. I think one of the reasons we make a good team is that we temper the other's tendencies to be at extreme ends of the spectrum.
You and I are exactly alike then. I have contingency plans for my contingency plans. I try to see every possible outcome, then the next possible outcome for each of those outcomes. While it can be good, I will often get fed up trying to figure it all out and just do something and go with what I get from that. It's a weird dance I do with myself...
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@ajstringham said:
@Dominica said:
@scottalanmiller And I need to imagine every scenario and possible outcome, and plan my reaction to each possibility. I think one of the reasons we make a good team is that we temper the other's tendencies to be at extreme ends of the spectrum.
You and I are exactly alike then. I have contingency plans for my contingency plans. I try to see every possible outcome, then the next possible outcome for each of those outcomes. While it can be good, I will often get fed up trying to figure it all out and just do something and go with what I get from that. It's a weird dance I do with myself...
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
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@Hubtech said:
@ajstringham said:
@Dominica said:
@scottalanmiller And I need to imagine every scenario and possible outcome, and plan my reaction to each possibility. I think one of the reasons we make a good team is that we temper the other's tendencies to be at extreme ends of the spectrum.
You and I are exactly alike then. I have contingency plans for my contingency plans. I try to see every possible outcome, then the next possible outcome for each of those outcomes. While it can be good, I will often get fed up trying to figure it all out and just do something and go with what I get from that. It's a weird dance I do with myself...
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
Like I said, I am certain it's not a six-figure job. However, it could still be an excellent position for me. I'm going to at least try to move forward with it.
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@Hubtech said:
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
I'm going by the description. But they are looking for someone with a really broad and deep technical level. The description makes it sound like a technical architect who can also apply that to businesses and then do all of that while doing presentations on camera. It is three major skill sets all rolled together. Each would pay well on its own. A technical person at the level that they describe should be six figures even without the other two skills.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Hubtech said:
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
I'm going by the description. But they are looking for someone with a really broad and deep technical level. The description makes it sound like a technical architect who can also apply that to businesses and then do all of that while doing presentations on camera. It is three major skill sets all rolled together. Each would pay well on its own. A technical person at the level that they describe should be six figures even without the other two skills.
I'm going to get more info on the role. I'll get back to you with clarification.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Hubtech said:
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
I'm going by the description. But they are looking for someone with a really broad and deep technical level. The description makes it sound like a technical architect who can also apply that to businesses and then do all of that while doing presentations on camera. It is three major skill sets all rolled together. Each would pay well on its own. A technical person at the level that they describe should be six figures even without the other two skills.
I'm going to get more info on the role. I'll get back to you with clarification.
and go sleep on a couch! get it
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Why do you need to plan everything out so much before even getting a job offer? just go for it, see what happens.
You could probably rent a room (from craigslist or something) cheaply in austin temporarily.
Don't be so rigid.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Hubtech said:
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
I'm going by the description. But they are looking for someone with a really broad and deep technical level. The description makes it sound like a technical architect who can also apply that to businesses and then do all of that while doing presentations on camera. It is three major skill sets all rolled together. Each would pay well on its own. A technical person at the level that they describe should be six figures even without the other two skills.
Yeah but SW is still in the "start-up" (much like facebook many years ago) so I'm not sure they would pay all that well. I wish I could land something full time even over the 40-45k mark then I'd be cool but, money isn't the most important thing to me in a job (learned the hard way).
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@Dominica said:
Seriously, AJ, do the interview or stop complaining about how unhappy you are with your current situation. Change what you don't like or shut up.
@Dominica That was spoken like an extravert!
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Yeah but SW is still in the "start-up" (much like facebook many years ago) so I'm not sure they would pay all that well.
No, they are not. They are fully operational. They left startup mode a few years ago. They still run on private equity, but that is different.
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Hubtech said:
this, like many other things going on with you will inhibit your ability to grow. risk/reward. If you were interested in the job you'd do whatever it takes to get it. You must not be too interested. Scott says its a 6 figure job. I know a couple years ago, I would have slept in my car or used couchsurfer for a few weeks to secure a legit job like that could be.
I'm going by the description. But they are looking for someone with a really broad and deep technical level. The description makes it sound like a technical architect who can also apply that to businesses and then do all of that while doing presentations on camera. It is three major skill sets all rolled together. Each would pay well on its own. A technical person at the level that they describe should be six figures even without the other two skills.
I'm going to get more info on the role. I'll get back to you with clarification.
It's not a commitment when you apply or even go to the interview.. Heck even taking a job generally can be left it you don't like it.
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@thecreativeone91 all jobs are left eventually (sometimes by death.) Staying, leaving, switching, interviewing, probing... it is all varying degrees of the risk/reward calculation.
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I would love to have AJ in our IT department. Of course keeping him calm in most situations may be a full time job
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A lot of eyes on this thread, definitely the hot topic of the day. I think that it is a good discussion. A lot of good points coming out for anyone considering and thinking about job opportunities. What makes a good value decision when looking at a job? What factors are influencing you to take or not take important risks? How do ambitious people approach these decisions?
