CradlePoint 1200B Small business router
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So the firewall and VPN functions in my router are useless?
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@technobabble said:
So the firewall and VPN functions in my router are useless?
Why do you say that?
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller you recommend separate hardware firewall to residential clients?
Separate from what? I recommend a hardware firewall always, yes.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
So the firewall and VPN functions in my router are useless?
Why do you say that?
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
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Why not use the VPN from the router with OpenVPN or IPSEC client for the roadwariror even though it's a server.
Also does Printer redirect over RDP not work for this situation? or does it need to be a persistent connection, if so hardware is the way to go.
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The office has a 2 networked printers and they want to be able to print to them from the server at the datacenter.
According to the datacenter I need a Firewall and VPN. I presumed the client only said they were connected to Comcast. I am not getting good information from the "datacenter IT person".
The client never need VPN until now and I thought that the firewall in the router was enough.
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@technobabble said:
The office has a 2 networked printers and they want to be able to print to them from the server at the datacenter.
According to the datacenter I need a Firewall and VPN. I presumed the client only said they were connected to Comcast. I am not getting good information from the "datacenter IT person".
The client never need VPN until now and I thought that the firewall in the router was enough.
What is the server at the data center? how is it connected to the local network now? a cloud print service might be a easier option if it's not really needed on the local network.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
Why not use the VPN from the router with OpenVPN or IPSEC client for the roadwariror even though it's a server.
Also does Printer redirect over RDP not work for this situation? or does it need to be a persistent connection, if so hardware is the way to go.
The program they are using is being delivered as a RDP App.
There are a few people working outside of the office that need to print to the local office and of course those printers won't redirect to them since they are not local. She was told that a VPN would solve the probem.
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@thecreativeone91 said:
@technobabble said:
The office has a 2 networked printers and they want to be able to print to them from the server at the datacenter.
According to the datacenter I need a Firewall and VPN. I presumed the client only said they were connected to Comcast. I am not getting good information from the "datacenter IT person".
The client never need VPN until now and I thought that the firewall in the router was enough.
What is the server at the data center? how is it connected to the local network now? a cloud print service might be a easier option if it's not really needed on the local network.
The server at the datacenter is where their line of business application is running. They are using RDP and/or RPD Apps to connect.
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@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
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@technobabble said:
There are a few people working outside of the office that need to print to the local office and of course those printers won't redirect to them since they are not local. She was told that a VPN would solve the probem.
Yes a site to site or a client to site VPN will make the remote users a part of the network.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
There are a few people working outside of the office that need to print to the local office and of course those printers won't redirect to them since they are not local. She was told that a VPN would solve the probem.
Yes a site to site or a client to site VPN will make the remote users a part of the network.
Thanks. Sad to say I have no experience in VPN. I have read about it and followed threads here and on that other board.
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
ah ha...now it is clear. One of my original question was if they needed a standalone firewall.
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I need to write better questions!
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@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@technobabble said:
Trying to understand why I would need extra devices to replace an all in one device so I can intelligently explain it to the client. This client has 4 PCs and will be moving the rest of their servers to an offsite datacenter.
I'm not saying that an all in one isn't okay, just that you can't be without a firewall.
Not picking a fight, but does that mean a built in firewall is good enough, but not recommended? Is there a size of a business that determines when you should have a hardware firewall? Thanks!
I'm not implying anything at all. I think that your original question was if a firewall was needed and all I was answering was that yes, a firewall is always needed.
I've made no distinction between all in one or other devices.
ah ha...now it is clear. One of my original question was if they needed a standalone firewall.
Usually the firewall in a routing/gateway device will be fine. a Software level firewall like windows firewall is not okay as your perimeter device however.
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The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter that I often recommend is router and firewall in one. I never recommend all in ones including wireless, though. It is so cheap to do it separate and it works so much better. You can do a firewall and access point combo for around $150 for serious enterprise gear. Not much call for getting below $150.
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@scottalanmiller said:
The Ubiquiti EdgeRouter that I often recommend is router and firewall in one. I never recommend all in ones including wireless, though. It is so cheap to do it separate and it works so much better. You can do a firewall and access point combo for around $150 for serious enterprise gear. Not much call for getting below $150.
I'll look into Ubiquiti's items. In the s in smb I find most businesses are still using the modem/router that comes from the ISP or a residential router.
