Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?
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Yeah, overall they seem to be headed in a poor direction. I'm not doom and gloom, their new Dream Machine strategy is extremely foolish to me, taking something that worked so well and making it convoluted and fragile by comparison. It's not the worst thing, but there are benefits to the old, proven approach.
I'm not 100% against the Dream Machines now that they have the rack mount units. But they used to have a far better lineup of hardware and the software approach was better and now documentation has gotten even worse.
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Anyone have experience with Aruba instant on?
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My company is looking at TP-Link's Omada line, I'll have a demo with them set up for next week; will let you all know
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@jt1001001 I have always regarded TP Link as consumer grade garbage... am I wrong?
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@CCWTech The Omada products "mirror" Ubiquiti; so much so that I wonder if they stole Ubiquiti's interface? They use a model of hardware controller; self hosted software controller, or their cloud controller; that model requiring a license per device per year. I have some demo hardware at my office we're just getting set up to play with I'll let you know the results later this week. You can have super administrators with access to all sites and an admin per site.
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@jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
@CCWTech The Omada products "mirror" Ubiquiti; so much so that I wonder if they stole Ubiquiti's interface? They use a model of hardware controller; self hosted software controller, or their cloud controller; that model requiring a license per device per year. I have some demo hardware at my office we're just getting set up to play with I'll let you know the results later this week. You can have super administrators with access to all sites and an admin per site.
Now that is honestly promising.
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@jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
My company is looking at TP-Link's Omada line, I'll have a demo with them set up for next week; will let you all know
Oh wow, that looks super interesting. Check out those prices!
I want to get some to try.
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@CCWTech They haven't been garbage for a while. Their switches have been one of the most reliable I have had .
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One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.
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@jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.
Ouch,.. but so does Ubnt controller Iirc.
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@jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.
For the controller, I don't see that as a problem. My preferred way to do it, obviously not. But it's not bad at all. Java on the server has always been good, just extra effort. But this is Java's wheelhouse. Java on the CLIENT, that's insane. Java should never be used for a GUI.
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@gjacobse said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
@jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.
Ouch,.. but so does Ubnt controller Iirc.
Yeah, hence the suspicion that it was copied.
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@dbeato said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
@CCWTech They haven't been garbage for a while. Their switches have been one of the most reliable I have had .
I have a few here in Nicaragua in my house for our PoE distribution.
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but server side Java is where java supposed to be. It is not like a desktop app requiring java.
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I was looking at the Omada line recently too. I still have not found a direct replacement for the EdgeRouter lineup. Which is a real shame, because they are such great devices. Then I found Omada on a blog somewhere but haven't pulled the trigger on getting a unit to try. I might have to though, as I have been waiting for an EdgeRouter 4 for over a year or more.
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@AdamF said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
I was looking at the Omada line recently too. I still have not found a direct replacement for the EdgeRouter lineup. Which is a real shame, because they are such great devices. Then I found Omada on a blog somewhere but haven't pulled the trigger on getting a unit to try. I might have to though, as I have been waiting for an EdgeRouter 4 for over a year or more.
I don't have a good replacement for the EdgeRouter line either.
The Omada/TP_Link switches and wifi are fine replacements for Ubiquiti gear.
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As @JaredBusch said the Omada line is a good replacement for the Ubiquiti's Uni-Fi line. The controller interface is almost identical. Product is good and can be managed from a controller that is a physical box; or a software controller that runs on Windows or Linux or they have a cloud offering they run. Set up is similar to the adoption process of Ubiquiti. The router solution they have is definintely NOT a replacement for the Edgerouer; more consumer looking that pro looking. I'll continue to play with it as our company's looking to resell this line shortly.
I did see the Ubiquiti has EdgeRouter 12's in stock but pricing is higher than the 4's -
In reading through the UI forums, specifically this gentlemen's post, it does not look promising.
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@AdamF said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:
In reading through the UI forums, specifically this gentlemen's post, it does not look promising.
UniFi and EdgeMax are completely different things and always have been.
In the spirit of the exception to prove the rule, the first USG was just a ERL with different firmware/OS. But again, the exception.
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UniFi gear is generally still available, with no issues.
The UniFi Controller is a hot pile of shit compared to how it used to be (IMO), but not a horrible solution.
The real failure of the UniFi controller is simply the use case of not sharing the super admin password.
