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    Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
      last edited by

      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

      AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

      Nor does MeshCentral

      Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

      I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

      Wayland with MeshCentral?

      You SURE you are on Wayland?

      Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

      Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

        AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

        Nor does MeshCentral

        Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

        I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

        Wayland with MeshCentral?

        You SURE you are on Wayland?

        Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

        Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

        Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

          AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

          Nor does MeshCentral

          Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

          I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

          Wayland with MeshCentral?

          You SURE you are on Wayland?

          Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

          Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

          Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

          Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @dafyre
            last edited by

            @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

            AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

            Nor does MeshCentral

            Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

            I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

            Wayland with MeshCentral?

            You SURE you are on Wayland?

            Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

            Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

            Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

            Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

            Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.

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            • CCWTechC
              CCWTech @travisdh1
              last edited by

              @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

              AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

              Nor does MeshCentral

              Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

              I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

              Wayland with MeshCentral?

              You SURE you are on Wayland?

              Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

              Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

              Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

              Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

              Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.
              No reason to guess:

              $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
              x11

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

                Nor does MeshCentral

                Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

                I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

                Wayland with MeshCentral?

                You SURE you are on Wayland?

                Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

                Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

                Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

                Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

                Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.

                You can check with

                loginctl

                and

                '''
                loginctl show-session -p Type <sessionid>

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @CCWTech
                  last edited by

                  @CCWTech said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                  AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

                  Nor does MeshCentral

                  Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

                  I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

                  Wayland with MeshCentral?

                  You SURE you are on Wayland?

                  Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

                  Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

                  Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

                  Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

                  Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.
                  No reason to guess:

                  $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
                  x11

                  Well dang. That's a lot easier, lol.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                    AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

                    Nor does MeshCentral

                    Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

                    I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

                    Wayland with MeshCentral?

                    You SURE you are on Wayland?

                    Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

                    Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

                    Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

                    Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

                    Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.

                    You can check with

                    loginctl

                    and

                    '''
                    loginctl show-session -p Type <sessionid>

                    loginctl show-session -p Type 2
                    Type=wayland

                    Well shoot, are my Nvidia drivers not working? The more I find out, the more things I need to look at/fix.

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                    • CCWTechC
                      CCWTech @travisdh1
                      last edited by

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                      AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

                      Nor does MeshCentral

                      Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

                      I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

                      Wayland with MeshCentral?

                      You SURE you are on Wayland?

                      Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

                      Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

                      Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

                      Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

                      Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.

                      You can check with

                      loginctl

                      and

                      '''
                      loginctl show-session -p Type <sessionid>

                      loginctl show-session -p Type 2
                      Type=wayland

                      Well shoot, are my Nvidia drivers not working? The more I find out, the more things I need to look at/fix.

                      What do you have it set to use?

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @CCWTech
                        last edited by

                        @CCWTech said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @travisdh1 said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        @dafyre said in Running X11 - Ubuntu 22.10 - Should I care?:

                        AFAIK, Even VNC doesn't work on Wayland yet.

                        Nor does MeshCentral

                        Really? Now I need to go try that when I have a minute.

                        I just confirmed that mine is working on the default Fedora 37 desktop using both Firefox and Chromium.

                        Wayland with MeshCentral?

                        You SURE you are on Wayland?

                        Isn't Wayland the default for Fedora now? I'm using the stock Fedora, so I'm thinking I am.

                        Double check that. Maybe you updated from something with X.org.

                        Fresh install. Wiped root before installing (it was way behind, no point in upgrading).

                        Do you have NVIDIA drivers on the system? Those will revert you back to X.Org

                        Yep, sure do. Guess it's not wayland then.

                        You can check with

                        loginctl

                        and

                        '''
                        loginctl show-session -p Type <sessionid>

                        loginctl show-session -p Type 2
                        Type=wayland

                        Well shoot, are my Nvidia drivers not working? The more I find out, the more things I need to look at/fix.

                        What do you have it set to use?

                        I was under the impression that if you install the NVidia drivers, that you would wind up with X11 and not Wayland.

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