Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage
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@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
Zoho has a new-ish package for families called Zillum.
There are three package sizes (up to 3, 5 and 10 accounts) each with a different amount of storage.
Price turns out to be about $2/user/month - it's not free but with Zoho you're not the product. And it's lower than comparable Zoho business package.
I signed up for the family but haven't rolled it out yet. But it works pretty much exactly as the business apps.
I got a couple of domains setup (you can have multiple) so they can have both serious email addresses ([email protected]) and throwaway type accounts ([email protected]).
Zillum consists of:
- Zoho Mail - 25GB mail storage per account, calendars etc
- Zoho Workdrive - 0.5TB / 1TB / 2TB of total team storage
- Zoho Cliq - Slack like team chat
- Zoho Vault - Zoho's team oriented password manager
- Zoho Office - Zoho's office apps
Here's more info and pricing:
https://www.zoho.com/zillumFor a family of four (or two, or six), it's basically the same price as the enterprise plan. And only if everyone in the family wants access to business tools (they do not.) Just Zoho Business email would be much cheaper for family members and you can have unlimited users.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
For a family of four (or two, or six), it's basically the same price as the enterprise plan. And only if everyone in the family wants access to business tools (they do not.) Just Zoho Business email would be much cheaper for family members and you can have unlimited users.
Your pricing calculations are incorrect (see below) but if you only need mail obviously the bundle will be more expensive.
The version of Zillum's bundled services has no exact business package equivalent when it comes to features and storage. I haven't found the exact features listed but from what I can see having access to the highest tier of all Zoho packages:
- Bundled Mail is between Mail Lite 10GB and Mail Premium.
- Bundled Workdrive is the Starter package but with different amount of storage.
- Bundled Cliq is between Free and Enterprise package.
- Bundled Vault is between Standard and Professional package.
- Bundled Office is the same and doesn't come in different packages.
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.
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@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
But there isn't much of a family price break.
Well, just the Workdrive Starter package is $2.5 per user normally, which is more than Zillum.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
what do they want to use?
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@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
But there isn't much of a family price break.
Well, just the Workdrive Starter package is $2.5 per user normally, which is more than Zillum.
$3 is the total for all of those features. And check the four user pricing.
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@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
what do they want to use?
Nothing. Most people dont want to use spreadsheets and documents like that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
what do they want to use?
Nothing. Most people dont want to use spreadsheets and documents like that.
oh yeah, well sure - but come on - most people at one point in their life or another need a spreadsheet... that's not to say they should buy this for that 'some day' situation.
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@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
what do they want to use?
Nothing. Most people dont want to use spreadsheets and documents like that.
oh yeah, well sure - but come on - most people at one point in their life or another need a spreadsheet... that's not to say they should buy this for that 'some day' situation.
That's not really relevant. Nor is it true. Most people do not want a spreadsheet at some point. But what is relevant is if they want to pay for it monthly. Welcome to the real world, people don't want spreadsheets, let alone paying for them.
When you DO need one, Google and LibreOffice are free. Of people who use them once in a while at home, is nearly always Google Sheets.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
I think these are collaboration tools more than pure business apps like say Zoho CRM or Zoho Project. We are going to use all of them in our family (windows, linux, chromebook & android devices).
Zillum also has it's own unified app/site so it's easier to move between Mail, Workdrive, Cliq etc.I know, we use all of that. But there isn't much of a family price break. I wonder how well it works if you are already on Zoho for work, I bet it doesn't play nicely. But my kids don't want to use those tools, nor does my wife. It would only be me.
what do they want to use?
Nothing. Most people dont want to use spreadsheets and documents like that.
oh yeah, well sure - but come on - most people at one point in their life or another need a spreadsheet... that's not to say they should buy this for that 'some day' situation.
That's not really relevant. Nor is it true. Most people do not want a spreadsheet at some point. But what is relevant is if they want to pay for it monthly. Welcome to the real world, people don't want spreadsheets, let alone paying for them.
When you DO need one, Google and LibreOffice are free. Of people who use them once in a while at home, is nearly always Google Sheets.
People may not want spread sheets - but I am still of the opinion that at one point or another - they will want to make one, at least once in their adult life - if for no other reason than a list.
And I agree - NO ONE wants to pay for it. most would likely use google sheets or excel online as part of OneDrive/Outlook.com (which is also completely free).
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@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
People may not want spread sheets - but I am still of the opinion that at one point or another - they will want to make one, at least once in their adult life - if for no other reason than a list.
Right, but just because you have that opinion isn't reflected in the real world where 90% of people aren't sure what a spreadsheet is or how to use it and report never wanting to see one once they learn what it is.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
But there isn't much of a family price break.
Well, just the Workdrive Starter package is $2.5 per user normally, which is more than Zillum.
$3 is the total for all of those features. And check the four user pricing.
No, it's not. As I said you're looking at Zoho app tiers with a lot less features and storage.
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@Dashrender said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
And I agree - NO ONE wants to pay for it. most would likely use google sheets or excel online as part of OneDrive/Outlook.com (which is also completely free).
Yeah, it's a problem that doesn't even exist, with an abundance of existing solutions.
For those that DO want to pay for it, it's pennies difference to use the business account options that already existed.
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@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
But there isn't much of a family price break.
Well, just the Workdrive Starter package is $2.5 per user normally, which is more than Zillum.
$3 is the total for all of those features. And check the four user pricing.
No, it's not. As I said you're looking at Zoho app tiers with a lot less features and storage.
You sure? What's missing?
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I guess no Vault, but how many families want to use that?
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@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
Zillum consists of:
Zoho Mail - 25GB mail storage per account, calendars etc
Zoho Workdrive - 0.5TB / 1TB / 2TB of total team storage
Zoho Cliq - Slack like team chat
Zoho Vault - Zoho's team oriented password manager
Zoho Office - Zoho's office appsHere's more info and pricing:
https://www.zoho.com/zillumSo for a family of four, that's $2.28/user/mo. And you get 25GB.
Enterprise is $3/user/mo. And you get 30GB.
But with enterprise you can mix and match by user. If you have users (teens, adults) who want the extra features, you pay the $3. If you only want email/cliq for the others, it's just $1. So if you don't want the office suite for everyone, you can save money with the business plan pretty easily. And get more storage. but I think you lose Vault.
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Oh wait, no, we get Vault. So same features.
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I love Zoho. I use Zoho. I pay for it for my company. 100% recommend day in, day out. It's just hard imagining the family use case for this, and hard to imagine there being a cost advantage.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
@Pete-S said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
Zillum consists of:
Zoho Mail - 25GB mail storage per account, calendars etc
Zoho Workdrive - 0.5TB / 1TB / 2TB of total team storage
Zoho Cliq - Slack like team chat
Zoho Vault - Zoho's team oriented password manager
Zoho Office - Zoho's office appsHere's more info and pricing:
https://www.zoho.com/zillumSo for a family of four, that's $2.28/user/mo. And you get 25GB.
Enterprise is $3/user/mo. And you get 30GB.
But with enterprise you can mix and match by user. If you have users (teens, adults) who want the extra features, you pay the $3. If you only want email/cliq for the others, it's just $1. So if you don't want the office suite for everyone, you can save money with the business plan pretty easily. And get more storage. but I think you lose Vault.
What do you mean exactly by "Enterprise"? The only "Enterprise" I know is that some apps have an enterprise tier, for example Zoho Cliq. There is no Enterprise bundle that I know of.
Are you perhaps referring to the Zoho Workplace bundles? The "Standard" tier ($3/user/month) doesn't have much cloud storage and the "Professional" is double the price ($6/user/month) but it's the closest to Zillum features and storage.
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@scottalanmiller said in Zoho Zillum - family oriented mail and cloud storage:
It's just hard imagining the family use case for this, and hard to imagine there being a cost advantage.
Not all families are the same. Our kids use computers in school so our family needs are basically the same as any small organization of entry level office workers.
To avoid chaos we want to provide them with a "digital home" if you will. That's the use case.
Cost advantage is that Zillum is 50% cheaper for us, compared to just Workdrive Starter and Mail Lite.
