VNC Replacement solution
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@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
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@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
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I haven't used it forever, but I think X2Go also supports Windows as a host.
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@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
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@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
Yeah I think nomachine uses nx4 and x2go uses the old open source nx3. It's a mess. I know when I did this for the DoD contractor we just ended up using RDP because the whole ecosystem was terrible. X2Go looks like it still can't support anything past GNOME 3.12 which is ridiculous as it's been like 5-6 years since I last looked.
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@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
Yeah I think nomachine uses nx4 and x2go uses the old open source nx3. It's a mess. I know when I did this for the DoD contractor we just ended up using RDP because the whole ecosystem was terrible. X2Go looks like it still can't support anything past GNOME 3.12 which is ridiculous as it's been like 5-6 years since I last looked.
It's funny because we looked at it as well and we too ended up with RDP. And RDP has improved a lot over the years.
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@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
NX3 is still open I think, and NX4 is not.
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@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
Yeah I think nomachine uses nx4 and x2go uses the old open source nx3. It's a mess. I know when I did this for the DoD contractor we just ended up using RDP because the whole ecosystem was terrible. X2Go looks like it still can't support anything past GNOME 3.12 which is ridiculous as it's been like 5-6 years since I last looked.
It's funny because we looked at it as well and we too ended up with RDP. And RDP has improved a lot over the years.
I replaced our NX with RDP, too.
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@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@Pete-S said in VNC Replacement solution:
@scottalanmiller said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
Nomachine works well. It's easy to set up and I've found it to be more performance and easier to set up than VNC. If it's just between windows and Linux, then rdp works also as Pete mentioned (if you don't want straight console access).
And easier than RDP on some platforms.
Nomachine is free only for personal use. You have to pay if you're using it for commercial use. It's not exactly straight forward to know what is what but there are some guidance here:
https://knowledgebase.nomachine.com/AR03P00972My interpretation is that you can get away with the free version only for sporadic admin tasks. Anything else in a company requires the enterprise license.
That sucks. It didn't used to be like that. I really feel like they are just strangling their product over time. The pricing for everything they have is ridiculous.
Yeah, they've made changes over the years. There is the NX protocol and it's wasn't open source but then it was and then it wasn't. I think open source project such as freenx / x2go uses NX but it's not compatible with the NX version that NoMachine uses. I've run into that problem a couple of years ago. I don't know if freenx exists anymore or what the deal is.
Yeah I think nomachine uses nx4 and x2go uses the old open source nx3. It's a mess. I know when I did this for the DoD contractor we just ended up using RDP because the whole ecosystem was terrible. X2Go looks like it still can't support anything past GNOME 3.12 which is ridiculous as it's been like 5-6 years since I last looked.
Yes, exactly.
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RDP is going to be a no go. Set it up today and was getting connected - that shouldn't have been an issue.
The issues is Audio and COM ports. Seems RDP is re-directing - even with that setting off.
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@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
RDP is going to be a no go. Set it up today and was getting connected - that shouldn't have been an issue.
The issues is Audio and COM ports. Seems RDP is re-directing - even with that setting off.
I feel like we don't have enough I do to help. Is this your machine you are remotely connecting to? Someone else's? Do you need console access or do you just need a session?
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@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
RDP is going to be a no go. Set it up today and was getting connected - that shouldn't have been an issue.
The issues is Audio and COM ports. Seems RDP is re-directing - even with that setting off.
I feel like we don't have enough I do to help. Is this your machine you are remotely connecting to? Someone else's? Do you need console access or do you just need a session?
My system. Needs to be GUI - Desktop access. All the programs running are to operate the radio
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@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
RDP is going to be a no go. Set it up today and was getting connected - that shouldn't have been an issue.
The issues is Audio and COM ports. Seems RDP is re-directing - even with that setting off.
I feel like we don't have enough I do to help. Is this your machine you are remotely connecting to? Someone else's? Do you need console access or do you just need a session?
My system. Needs to be GUI - Desktop access. All the programs running are to operate the radio
I'd just try nomachine then and see how that works for you.
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@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
@stacksofplates said in VNC Replacement solution:
@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
RDP is going to be a no go. Set it up today and was getting connected - that shouldn't have been an issue.
The issues is Audio and COM ports. Seems RDP is re-directing - even with that setting off.
I feel like we don't have enough I do to help. Is this your machine you are remotely connecting to? Someone else's? Do you need console access or do you just need a session?
My system. Needs to be GUI - Desktop access. All the programs running are to operate the radio
I'd just try nomachine then and see how that works for you.
Well - See DM, but at the moment - noMachine is a fail. It's a simple configuration - but fails to connection. I've invested two evenings and review their doc and review some YT videos. Simple enough - but complete fails thus far.
Not giving up - it was a rough day... I discovered I had it installed on my phone, and heh @scottalanmiller will get a kick out of this - still had the NTG connection configured.
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It's widely known that after you install software you should - reboot.
While many application function at one hundred percent right after install, some do not.
noMachine is like that it would seem. Thanks to @stacksofplates for mentioning this simple but very effective fact.
While I had installed noMachine, I hadn't performed that task on either the host or viewer.
Thus far - it's been working as designed and across platforms. I still need to test via the iPad - where I had had so much issue previously.
Thanks again -
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@gjacobse said in VNC Replacement solution:
It's widely known that after you install software you should - reboot.
While many application function at one hundred percent right after install, some do not.
noMachine is like that it would seem. Thanks to @stacksofplates for mentioning this simple but very effective fact.
While I had installed noMachine, I hadn't performed that task on either the host or viewer.
Thus far - it's been working as designed and across platforms. I still need to test via the iPad - where I had had so much issue previously.
Thanks again -
No problem!
