GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?
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How are you deploying printers to AD users in a brand new domain after all this printing mess?
I can't decide if I want to use GPO or GPP or just script it to install on the workstation side.
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If you have a real green field situation - I would seriously look at options to get rid of AD if possible.
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do that because I have a large number of spots that need any number of 20+ persons be allowed to log into those computers. AD or some similar technology make that pretty easy. While you can script users over multiple machines - that seems painful, though I've never done it.
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While its a chore and an expense, try to move to a badge print system and one printer model. you add one print, but still have location options.
We are moving towards this as we have both a number of printers and sites, nad people who move between those sites. Badge printing will help address this.
We are testing the Lexmark cloud print - and thus far has been working perfectly. They have just had a minor supply chain issue - but hey who hasn't been in the last eighteen months.
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@gjacobse said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
While its a chore and an expense, try to move to a badge print system and one printer model. you add one print, but still have location options.
We are moving towards this as we have both a number of printers and sites, nad people who move between those sites. Badge printing will help address this.
We are testing the Lexmark cloud print - and thus far has been working perfectly. They have just had a minor supply chain issue - but hey who hasn't been in the last eighteen months.
I like the idea of that - How is the performance? i.e. how long does it take for prints to come out?
I remember when printing from thin clients was a huge network connection drain (specifically over small site to site connections).
Then there's the cost. While it would be beneficial in my environment, I'm not sure we could get the value out of expense of the RFID scanners (assuming not built into the printers) and the subscription cost.
If you're on a collage campus, I can completely see the value in something like this - your printing from the library, but you don't pickup the jobs until your across campus at the science building.
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@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@gjacobse said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
While its a chore and an expense, try to move to a badge print system and one printer model. you add one print, but still have location options.
We are moving towards this as we have both a number of printers and sites, nad people who move between those sites. Badge printing will help address this.
We are testing the Lexmark cloud print - and thus far has been working perfectly. They have just had a minor supply chain issue - but hey who hasn't been in the last eighteen months.
I like the idea of that - How is the performance? i.e. how long does it take for prints to come out?
I remember when printing from thin clients was a huge network connection drain (specifically over small site to site connections).
Then there's the cost. While it would be beneficial in my environment, I'm not sure we could get the value out of expense of the RFID scanners (assuming not built into the printers) and the subscription cost.
If you're on a collage campus, I can completely see the value in something like this - your printing from the library, but you don't pickup the jobs until your across campus at the science building.
Performance isn't as bad as one might imagine. The printer is behind me in the next room, I print as normal, walk up and badge in. Select my print job and it prints. I don't have a perception of any delays or long waits for prints.
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@gjacobse said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@gjacobse said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
While its a chore and an expense, try to move to a badge print system and one printer model. you add one print, but still have location options.
We are moving towards this as we have both a number of printers and sites, nad people who move between those sites. Badge printing will help address this.
We are testing the Lexmark cloud print - and thus far has been working perfectly. They have just had a minor supply chain issue - but hey who hasn't been in the last eighteen months.
I like the idea of that - How is the performance? i.e. how long does it take for prints to come out?
I remember when printing from thin clients was a huge network connection drain (specifically over small site to site connections).
Then there's the cost. While it would be beneficial in my environment, I'm not sure we could get the value out of expense of the RFID scanners (assuming not built into the printers) and the subscription cost.
If you're on a collage campus, I can completely see the value in something like this - your printing from the library, but you don't pickup the jobs until your across campus at the science building.
Performance isn't as bad as one might imagine. The printer is behind me in the next room, I print as normal, walk up and badge in. Select my print job and it prints. I don't have a perception of any delays or long waits for prints.
What size displays do you have on those printers? How large are the printers?
We only have one floor standing printer - the rest are table top mid-sized MFPs, with a few print only devices on a few desks (these likely wouldn't ever need badging.
You mentioned picking your print job - Assume it only shows you your own? Do you have option to set it up to just print everything when you badge?
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@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
What size displays do you have on those printers? How large are the printers?
It is a Lexmark XM7355b with additional paper drawers, stapler and hole punch and fax / scanner.
The 'thing' on the display is a USB Drive for size comparison.
Without the drawers, it would sit on a table..
@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
You mentioned picking your print job - Assume it only shows you your own? Do you have option to set it up to just print everything when you badge?
It shows just your prints - or you can approve someone to see what you print (delegate).
You can print all (radio box) or select only what you want to print - you can 'save' a form to print repeatedly.
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@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
If you have a real green field situation - I would seriously look at options to get rid of AD if possible.
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do that because I have a large number of spots that need any number of 20+ persons be allowed to log into those computers. AD or some similar technology make that pretty easy. While you can script users over multiple machines - that seems painful, though I've never done it.
Seems any hosted directory service would work? AAD or Jumpcloud sound like they would fit.
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@stacksofplates said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
If you have a real green field situation - I would seriously look at options to get rid of AD if possible.
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do that because I have a large number of spots that need any number of 20+ persons be allowed to log into those computers. AD or some similar technology make that pretty easy. While you can script users over multiple machines - that seems painful, though I've never done it.
Seems any hosted directory service would work? AAD or Jumpcloud sound like they would fit.
AAD sounds OK - but Jumpcloud - (I believe it uses traditional AD Kerberos/NTLM - if not, the following doesn't apply) I probably wouldn't go that direction, don't want to have to manage/maintain VPNs between the endpoints and Jumpcloud.
Then the question is - Does MS have a remote printing solution with AAD as part of the backend?
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@jasgot All good ideas, thanks.
I wrote an install script for every printer on the network, users can go to a share and run the installer they want. The installer installs the printer as a TCPIP printer, no AD or Print servers involved.
I will go back to GPPs when M$ gets their act together.
We are so tired of fixing printing problems.....
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@jasgot said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@jasgot All good ideas, thanks.
I wrote an install script for every printer on the network, users can go to a share and run the installer they want. The installer installs the printer as a TCPIP printer, no AD or Print servers involved.
I will go back to GPPs when M$ gets their act together.
We are so tired of fixing printing problems.....
I backed up the scripted used at the State for Follow-You print; it installed, set the printer as default and then sent it a test page. Helpful for initial training to use Follow You Print.
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@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@stacksofplates said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@dashrender said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
If you have a real green field situation - I would seriously look at options to get rid of AD if possible.
I'm not sure I'll ever be able to do that because I have a large number of spots that need any number of 20+ persons be allowed to log into those computers. AD or some similar technology make that pretty easy. While you can script users over multiple machines - that seems painful, though I've never done it.
Seems any hosted directory service would work? AAD or Jumpcloud sound like they would fit.
AAD sounds OK - but Jumpcloud - (I believe it uses traditional AD Kerberos/NTLM - if not, the following doesn't apply) I probably wouldn't go that direction, don't want to have to manage/maintain VPNs between the endpoints and Jumpcloud.
Then the question is - Does MS have a remote printing solution with AAD as part of the backend?
Jumpcloud doesn't use any AD. It creates local accounts on all the systems and syncs the password. You'd be responsible to have a place for users to store configuration changes but other than that it's really simple.
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@gjacobse said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@jasgot said in GPO or GPP printer setup in light of all this printing nightmare stuff?:
@jasgot All good ideas, thanks.
I wrote an install script for every printer on the network, users can go to a share and run the installer they want. The installer installs the printer as a TCPIP printer, no AD or Print servers involved.
I will go back to GPPs when M$ gets their act together.
We are so tired of fixing printing problems.....
I backed up the scripted used at the State for Follow-You print; it installed, set the printer as default and then sent it a test page. Helpful for initial training to use Follow You Print.
Can you share?
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@jasgot
Working to - Someone suggested I put all of my 'collection' in Github.
