Staying at your shitty employer is your fault
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Update in 2022... The job market is still as hot as it was last year, and it's still your fault for being with a shitty employer.
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@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Update in 2022... The job market is still as hot as it was last year, and it's still your fault for being with a shitty employer.
I see more fully remote jobs available now than ever.
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I got a 20% raise and I'm pretty sure I could get a lot more in this job market.
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@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
yeah, the whole social aspect is the question.
I think if the work day cut down to say 5-6 hours instead of 8, where you're jobbed-out focused on work because there are few to no distractions when you're at home (yeah right) compared to the drop into your cube conversations, or water cooler talk, etc... and giving those BS hours back to people might be the difference.
but who the hell knows?
Found this post today from 9/21
https://www.atlassian.com/blog/teamwork/4-day-workweek-productivity-wellbeing-results
Your idea is not that far fetched. It looks like it can have some good results also.
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Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
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@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
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@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
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@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
LinkedIn and they mostly come to me via inbox on Linkedin. Even so, LinkedIn is mostly crap like most job sites, but I find that most top tech companies use it for recruitment.
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@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
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@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
How much of that salary is cause of location?
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@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
How much of that salary is cause of location?
It depends on scale. You won't see that outside the US, not even close. With-in the US, fully remote, and depending on the company, an extremely small percentage if any.
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@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
How much of that salary is cause of location?
It depends on scale. You won't see that outside the US, not even close. With-in the US, fully remote, and depending on the company, an extremely small percentage if any.
The need to pay that amount to someone living in the midwest who is fully remote is completely different compared to someone who lives in LA/SF/NYC and working fully remote.
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@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
nd some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
This - has not been a problem I have had to worry with. And I'm okay with that. I got into computer and such in the late 1980s... first job being 1990 with the State using a Green Terminal to the mainframe - it had four sessions - Those were the days..
After thirty years, forgetting more that some of my current co-workers have ever learned, I've never gotten out of being an IT Generalist.. I enjoy being apart of all aspects of the company network... keeps me from being too bored with one subject. That is also a problem with how much things have advanced...
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@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
How much of that salary is cause of location?
The higher paying the job, the more likely its remote and location doesn't matter. Some companies choose to pay more based on remote workers location. However, it's always better to be in tax free state either way
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@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
Can I ask what kind of IT jobs those were and the general requirements? That seems a little hard to believe unless you're talking about jobs in the major US technology hubs... but I have limited knowledge and experience in this area.
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@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@obsolesce said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@jaredbusch said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
Where is everyone searching for quality IT job postings these days?
Word of mouth. I've never gotten a good job from a random posting.
I suppose the correct answer to myself is a wide net of every combination, including word of mouth, job posting sites like Indeed, Monster, etc, direct job postings on the website of the company, LinkedIn, etc.
I managed to get my first IT job using my state's job network website. I got a call-back from HR and had some awesome back and forth and landed a great gig. My friend and past co-worker got an amazing job from a head-hunter on LinkedIn. Another friend got a job from a company website post...
The last several good jobs I was either offered or have started were directly from LinkedIn, and some of them are $300K to $500K jobs.
Can I ask what kind of IT jobs those were and the general requirements? That seems a little hard to believe unless you're talking about jobs in the major US technology hubs... but I have limited knowledge and experience in this area.
He's referring to total comp in which you get a base of $150-200k and then have bonuses and stock incentives.
Here's an example of one that recently came across to me. This came via email, but I get most of these through LinkedIn.
'''
I’m the Talent Sourcing Partner for the world’s first API security unicorn
, NoName Security. We just announced our billion-dollar valuation and we’re looking for a Lead Attack Surface Management Architect (or Engineer - title is flexible) who can continue driving us to the next level!Primary responsibilities will be establishing and maintaining a vulnerability and patch management program for all of Noname, working with our incoming AppSec lead to identify and address issues in the core platform, understanding the perimeter and identifying concerns with the perimeter security, and establishing / operating tooling, dashboards, and reporting
Salary will depend on your experience, but to start us off I can tell you our target comp range for this role is $175-200k base + bonus + equity and fantastic benefits including 401K with 4% match and unlimited PTO.
Check out the job details below, and let me know if you’re interested in learning more, applying, or just asking questions about us!
'''
Hope to hear from you
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@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
He's referring to total comp in which you get a base of $150-200k
Lol - Guess I'm in the wrong LinkedIn circle as I don't get anything in that base range... And I'm okay with that (twitch).
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@gjacobse said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
He's referring to total comp in which you get a base of $150-200k
Lol - Guess I'm in the wrong LinkedIn circle as I don't get anything in that base range... And I'm okay with that (twitch).
It's generally based on skillset and experience. 2-3 years cloud experience is super valuable right now. I posted about this in 2019 here.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/19837/you-need-to-get-cloud-certified
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@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@gjacobse said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
He's referring to total comp in which you get a base of $150-200k
Lol - Guess I'm in the wrong LinkedIn circle as I don't get anything in that base range... And I'm okay with that (twitch).
It's generally based on skillset and experience. 2-3 years cloud experience is super valuable right now. I posted about this in 2019 here.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/19837/you-need-to-get-cloud-certified
I'm 6 years into IT (network admin, sysadmin, security (generalist)) and have my Security+ and am making $70,000 in Wisconsin right now. Is that low/normal/high?
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@dave247 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@gjacobse said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@irj said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
He's referring to total comp in which you get a base of $150-200k
Lol - Guess I'm in the wrong LinkedIn circle as I don't get anything in that base range... And I'm okay with that (twitch).
It's generally based on skillset and experience. 2-3 years cloud experience is super valuable right now. I posted about this in 2019 here.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/19837/you-need-to-get-cloud-certified
I'm 6 years into IT (network admin, sysadmin, security (generalist)) and have my Security+ and am making $70,000 in Wisconsin right now. Is that low/normal/high?
It seems low, but it depends on industry, size of company, company competitors, and of course good directional leadership in IT.
