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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

      While the changes don't take effect until Feb 1, I see nothing that indicates a cost is going to be applied to it.

      No one said anything about cost.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        I don't see how any of this matters. It doesn't really effect IT. It's more of a dev problem. They are the ones who choose to design their software strategy based on the Centos release cycle and therefore dictate what IT has to use to use their software.

        If those devs switch to something else, then we can too. It's up to them in the end anyways. Yes we have our preferences, we can use whatever we want so long as it's available and updated on our OS choice. Nothing changes in the end with the Centos Stream. If that's what your software choice needs, then just use it for that and you don't really have to worry about anything.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

          @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

          @stacksofplates anyone or their cousin can register as a developer and use the system for production.

          Here's my personal account.

          chrome_bBqzHTWlig.png

          Yes I also have a developer account. The 16 production workloads are for the cloud subscription. As the article mentioned.

          I think you're believing that this is tied to Redhat's Cloud offering, it's not. It's tied to your account with redhat, for sure. (So you can download it). But you can download and run this anywhere.

          At least that's how I'm reading this.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

            @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

            @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

            @stacksofplates anyone or their cousin can register as a developer and use the system for production.

            Here's my personal account.

            chrome_bBqzHTWlig.png

            Yes I also have a developer account. The 16 production workloads are for the cloud subscription. As the article mentioned.

            I think you're believing that this is tied to Redhat's Cloud offering, it's not. It's tied to your account with redhat, for sure. (So you can download it). But you can download and run this anywhere.

            At least that's how I'm reading this.

            You're correct. I just read that and came to post. The wording in the other article was confusing and made it seem like they needed to be deployed on a supported cloud provider.

            However, I still don't think it's worth going through the trouble to download from Red Hat vs just downloading Oracle and not needing to do anything.

            One thing I wonder is if you have a paid subscription for something like Gluster, Ceph, Satellite (not that you would for 16 servers but I mean any subscription) do you now have to pay for the host it's on? Do the terms of any of those pieces of software require the systems they're on to have a valid license?

            Just thinking about that took more time than downloading the Oracle ISO.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
              last edited by DustinB3403

              @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

              However, I still don't think it's worth going through the trouble to download from Red Hat vs just downloading Oracle and not needing to do anything.

              Agreed. Only if I had some reason to need the brand RHEL, but at this time I've not needed RHEL and got by with only using CentOS.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                @stacksofplates anyone or their cousin can register as a developer and use the system for production.

                Here's my personal account.

                chrome_bBqzHTWlig.png

                Yes I also have a developer account. The 16 production workloads are for the cloud subscription. As the article mentioned.

                I think you're believing that this is tied to Redhat's Cloud offering, it's not. It's tied to your account with redhat, for sure. (So you can download it). But you can download and run this anywhere.

                At least that's how I'm reading this.

                You're correct. I just read that and came to post. The wording in the other article was confusing and made it seem like they needed to be deployed on a supported cloud provider.

                However, I still don't think it's worth going through the trouble to download from Red Hat vs just downloading Oracle and not needing to do anything.

                One thing I wonder is if you have a paid subscription for something like Gluster, Ceph, Satellite (not that you would for 16 servers but I mean any subscription) do you now have to pay for the host it's on? Do the terms of any of those pieces of software require the systems they're on to have a valid license?

                Just thinking about that took more time than downloading the Oracle ISO.

                Why wouldn't they? They sure do in the Windows World.

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                  1337 @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                  @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                  @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                  @stacksofplates said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                  @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                  @stacksofplates anyone or their cousin can register as a developer and use the system for production.

                  Here's my personal account.

                  chrome_bBqzHTWlig.png

                  Yes I also have a developer account. The 16 production workloads are for the cloud subscription. As the article mentioned.

                  I think you're believing that this is tied to Redhat's Cloud offering, it's not. It's tied to your account with redhat, for sure. (So you can download it). But you can download and run this anywhere.

                  At least that's how I'm reading this.

                  You're correct. I just read that and came to post. The wording in the other article was confusing and made it seem like they needed to be deployed on a supported cloud provider.

                  However, I still don't think it's worth going through the trouble to download from Red Hat vs just downloading Oracle and not needing to do anything.

                  One thing I wonder is if you have a paid subscription for something like Gluster, Ceph, Satellite (not that you would for 16 servers but I mean any subscription) do you now have to pay for the host it's on? Do the terms of any of those pieces of software require the systems they're on to have a valid license?

                  Just thinking about that took more time than downloading the Oracle ISO.

                  Why wouldn't they? They sure do in the Windows World.

                  RedHat is after all the Microsoft of linux.

                  CentOS is really for those that want RHEL and the work that RedHat put in their distro but without paying for it. I mean that was the entire purpose of it's existence.

                  I'm surprised it took RedHat this long to kill the project. They basically bailed out CentOS 7 years ago because the project couldn't survive on their own.

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                  • jclambertJ
                    jclambert
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                    It seems they are giving away RHEL on a limited scale as a "replacement for CentOS" at small scale (up to 16 servers)

                    https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/centos-is-gone-but-rhel-is-now-free-for-up-to-16-production-servers/%3Famp=1

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @jclambert
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                      @jclambert Yeah we discussed this yesterday here. It's to little to late though for many though as IBM has burnt those bridges.

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                      • travisdh1T
                        travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream:

                        @jclambert Yeah we discussed this yesterday here. It's to little to late though for many though as IBM has burnt those bridges.

                        Yeah, if this was the plan all along, it should have been announced at the same time. What it looks like now is a management panic reaction to public outcry after they've already lost a large percentage of the user base.

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