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    • Bill KindleB
      Bill Kindle
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      http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/new-study-shows-nsa-phone-metadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/

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        thanksajdotcom @Bill Kindle
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        @Bill-Kindle said:

        http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/new-study-shows-nsa-phone-metadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/

        Wow. That's a very interesting tidbit...

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        • DashrenderD
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          Steve Gibson of GRC.com has been saying this about metadata for years in his podcast Security Now!

          He definitely mentioned it again and again while covering all this craziness from the NSA. He's definitely said on more than one occasion that metadata can possibly be worth more than the phone calls themselves because of the patterns that can be found.

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          • DominicaD
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            @Dashrender said:

            Steve Gibson of GRC.com has been saying this about metadata for years in his podcast Security Now!

            He definitely mentioned it again and again while covering all this craziness from the NSA. He's definitely said on more than one occasion that metadata can possibly be worth more than the phone calls themselves because of the patterns that can be found.

            Which is, of course, why the NSA wants this data in the first place. If they couldn't use it for profiling, they wouldn't be collecting it.

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              scottalanmiller @Dominica
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              @Dominica said:

              @Dashrender said:

              Steve Gibson of GRC.com has been saying this about metadata for years in his podcast Security Now!

              He definitely mentioned it again and again while covering all this craziness from the NSA. He's definitely said on more than one occasion that metadata can possibly be worth more than the phone calls themselves because of the patterns that can be found.

              Which is, of course, why the NSA wants this data in the first place. If they couldn't use it for profiling, they wouldn't be collecting it.

              Yeah, that's the whole idea.

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle
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                metadata is only a non-issue for those who don't understand what metadata is. I heard elected officials brushing it off and my jaw hit the floor. They either 1) refuse to educate themselves (see earlier incompetence post) or 2) listen to whatever they are told by idiot interns / special interest. Dominica you are spot on. If it wasn't useful, they wouldn't be asking to collect it.

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                  scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
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                  @Bill-Kindle said:

                  metadata is only a non-issue for those who don't understand what metadata is. I heard elected officials brushing it off and my jaw hit the floor. They either 1) refuse to educate themselves (see earlier incompetence post) or 2) listen to whatever they are told by idiot interns / special interest. Dominica you are spot on. If it wasn't useful, they wouldn't be asking to collect it.

                  If they are an "official", chance are "educating them" already failed.

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                  • NicN
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                    Then there was that report about figuring out the types of sites people were going to from the https traffic: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/new-attack-on-https-crypto-might-know-if-youre-pregnant-or-have-cancer/

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