Video editing - suggestions
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I have built a few of these over the years, but it has been a while. The video card is important, but only if they are rendering 3d or using something like After Effects. The biggest area you want to max out on is a Nice motherboard, a good processor, then 100% Max out every bit of RAM you can put in that board. This is because when you edit video, it is in RAM. Then to render it has to process everything you want done at 4K. The Processor L2 cache, buss speed, and RAM speed and amount are always the bottleneck.
Many of the Video editing machines I built back in the 2010ish times would use the intel onboard video, a 2nd PCI cheap video card I found for free for a 2nd monitor, then spend over 1/2 my build budget on really nice RAM and a motherboard. This may have changed a little going from 1080p to 4K.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851B&H is an excellent resource for advice on a build like this, but they are definitely not the low price place to buy anything. Shop around after you have a good idea what components you'll be using.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851Oh, don't get me started - First question I asked is - why do you have 4K monitors at home? oh because you just want a pretty picture - err.. OK.. seems like a good reason to spend $1200 on a 27" monitor.
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851Oh, don't get me started - First question I asked is - why do you have 4K monitors at home? oh because you just want a pretty picture - err.. OK.. seems like a good reason to spend $1200 on a 27" monitor.
Well if yo uare doing video editing, it's pretty normal.
And we've had a 4K laptops for many years now. 4K is very normal.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851The budget set for this is $600 * 2 for the monitors (because he wants the same as before) and $1000 for a PC. The camera will be more, but yeah, who knows.
This whole thing is just a nightmare.
There is NO CHANCE IN HELL he'll pay to hire some company to put a system together for this. He's already paying my salary - so my time is the most he's willing to spend.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851From an IT perspective you also need to think about backup. You might need 10GbE as well.
LOL - there will be no back of this. the videos will be made - posted to some website or Youtube and deleted. There is no long term planning on this.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
Not really. It's just a regular computer. 4K is just a nice monitor standard. That he's using home video software is just normal for home users.
Basically, pretty standard home user request that wants to do video editing.
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The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
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@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
I don't know what that means.
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
I don't know what that means.
You don't remember super 8 cameras from when you were a kid? That was the only way to video anything in consumer worlds when we were young.
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Millenials are so into this throwback anti-tech stuff, that after decades, Kodak is making Super 8 cameras again...
https://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/super8/super8-camera/default.htm
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@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
I don't know what that means.
You don't remember super 8 cameras from when you were a kid? That was the only way to video anything in consumer worlds when we were young.
No, we were not a video recording family.
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
I don't know what that means.
You don't remember super 8 cameras from when you were a kid? That was the only way to video anything in consumer worlds when we were young.
No, we were not a video recording family.
Yeah but... this was the culture of the first decade of your life. Like... this has been in pop culture for most of the century. There's a pop movie even called Super 8. They are used in tons and tons of movies, shows, etc. It's like not remembering VHS. Before VHS, Super 8 was even how you rented movies for home viewing!
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851The budget set for this is $600 * 2 for the monitors (because he wants the same as before) and $1000 for a PC. The camera will be more, but yeah, who knows.
This whole thing is just a nightmare.
There is NO CHANCE IN HELL he'll pay to hire some company to put a system together for this. He's already paying my salary - so my time is the most he's willing to spend.
Yeah, I get you. Well, since there are no parameters to go after except the price, it would make sense to base the specs on the price and get something as decent as possible.
Even though a tech channel, these guys shoot a lot of video for their channel so know what they're talking about.
If there turns out to be money in the budget, get a pair of audio monitors. I suggest the Mackie CR4. They're about $130 or so. Obviously not in the same class as real studio monitors that cost 20x as much but they will make the guy very happy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@scottalanmiller said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
The reality here is that there is zero for thought going into this build. Buzz words have been heard, and so there is a belief that they must do it, otherwise they will fall behind - total Millennial syndrome here.
Millenials would do this with a Super 8 camera.
I don't know what that means.
You don't remember super 8 cameras from when you were a kid? That was the only way to video anything in consumer worlds when we were young.
No, we were not a video recording family.
Yeah but... this was the culture of the first decade of your life. Like... this has been in pop culture for most of the century. There's a pop movie even called Super 8. They are used in tons and tons of movies, shows, etc. It's like not remembering VHS. Before VHS, Super 8 was even how you rented movies for home viewing!
Of course I've heard of it - but that's all, I know literally nothing else about it. I probably watched some educational films made on it in school, ages ago, but that was the beginning and end of my exposure.
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@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
@Pete-S said in Video editing - suggestions:
It feels like an odd combination of 4K, home video software and professional equipment.
There are many questions that need to be answered. For starters what camera is going to be used. It's a big deal because it can determine if and how premier elements can handle it. It also determines storage needs and cpu/gpu needs.
You also need to think about audio. A video editing rig needs decent monitors (aka speakers).
I would call someone like B&H who sells pro video (and not so pro) to see help you out.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/browse/Professional-Video/ci/3755/N/4294545851The budget set for this is $600 * 2 for the monitors (because he wants the same as before) and $1000 for a PC. The camera will be more, but yeah, who knows.
This whole thing is just a nightmare.
There is NO CHANCE IN HELL he'll pay to hire some company to put a system together for this. He's already paying my salary - so my time is the most he's willing to spend.
Yeah, I get you. Well, since there are no parameters to go after except the price, it would make sense to base the specs on the price and get something as decent as possible.
Even though a tech channel, these guys shoot a lot of video for their channel so know what they're talking about.
If there turns out to be money in the budget, get a pair of audio monitors. I suggest the Mackie CR4. They're about $130 or so. Obviously not in the same class as real studio monitors that cost 20x as much but they will make the guy very happy.
oh man.. that guy is such a tool!
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
oh man.. that guy is such a tool!
No kidding, I'd avoid anything he demonstrates or uses. He is just a showcase of how not to do things and what not to buy. If it's on his show, it's not something you want to touch.
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@Dashrender said in Video editing - suggestions:
oh man.. that guy is such a tool!
Not my cup of tea either but it doesn't matter. They shoot a lot of video and you can see them scrubbing and doing stuff on the 4K video stream and that is what you want. Looks like they are using Adobe Premiere Pro so should be similar performance with elements. Pro is $20 per month I think so not too bad if one would need more features down the line.
Performance on the hardware is decent enough but not awesome so it's not more than needed. Budget is $1000 which is what you had too. If you want to build or buy doesn't matter but this is the ballpark to aim for:
- CPU 6-core 3.6Ghz base, 4.2Ghz turbo.
- 16GB RAM
- 0.5TB NVMe SSD
- 3TB HDD
- Nvidia GTX 1650 4GB
