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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

      I'd assume not, but it seems like you are the only one having this issue.

      Because everyone using Zoom has already installed it, obviously. This doesn't take much thought to figure out.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

        @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

        Again, successful zoom test from web browser in ALL major OSs around here, and Chrome, FF, Edge. All 100% working, not at all as you describe. I'm not sure what you are doing to your devices, or if you are editing the screenshots to remove what everyone else sees to prove a point, I'd assume not, but it seems like you are the only one having this issue. This is the standard practice in the company I work for and it works across all devices, Win10, Mac, Linux for all users ~10k.

        And AGAIN... I bet you have Zoom installed or set up in some way to allow it. Do a FRESH install, don't test with a machine where you've already installed it.

        Obviously you aren't testing in a clean environment.

        You have something faked here to make it look like this is the default. These days, almost everyone has already set up Zoom so yeah, it might give you that option. But it doesn't when we tested on clean builds. So stop faking the test and stop calling people liars. Do a clean build, don't install anything, and ta da, you'll see it not support a browser without additional effort of some sort.

        He did a fresh install. He said that in all of the screenshots.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates
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          Are you on X or Wayland?

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

            @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

            I literally have no idea what you are talking about scott.

            Well we established that that isn't showing up for everyone. So the guess is that you set something up special to allow that to happen since it doesn't work on Firefox, Chrome, or Edge on Linux or Windows by default.

            Default was EXACTLY what it was, in every example. Fresh OS installs. Fresh browser installs if it wasn't on as part of the OS (Google Chrome) . I thought that was clear... I set absoluty nothing up, this was all truly default. I even tried after OS updates from the default installs, and still got the same results. Just too much to post.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

              @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

              Again, successful zoom test from web browser in ALL major OSs around here, and Chrome, FF, Edge. All 100% working, not at all as you describe. I'm not sure what you are doing to your devices, or if you are editing the screenshots to remove what everyone else sees to prove a point, I'd assume not, but it seems like you are the only one having this issue. This is the standard practice in the company I work for and it works across all devices, Win10, Mac, Linux for all users ~10k.

              And AGAIN... I bet you have Zoom installed or set up in some way to allow it. Do a FRESH install, don't test with a machine where you've already installed it.

              Obviously you aren't testing in a clean environment.

              You have something faked here to make it look like this is the default. These days, almost everyone has already set up Zoom so yeah, it might give you that option. But it doesn't when we tested on clean builds. So stop faking the test and stop calling people liars. Do a clean build, don't install anything, and ta da, you'll see it not support a browser without additional effort of some sort.

              I can do a screen recording of the shit. I literally installed the OS, opened up the web browser, then went to a zoom meeting. Zoom was not installed. I have in one of the screenshot it is promoting to install, but still shows the use in browser link. Literally zero done other than installing default OS, and opening the default browser. Nothing. At. All. If you are truly not convinced and not just trolling me, I will record it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

                @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

                I literally have no idea what you are talking about scott.

                Well we established that that isn't showing up for everyone. So the guess is that you set something up special to allow that to happen since it doesn't work on Firefox, Chrome, or Edge on Linux or Windows by default.

                Default was EXACTLY what it was, in every example. Fresh OS installs. Fresh browser installs if it wasn't on as part of the OS (Google Chrome) . I thought that was clear... I set absoluty nothing up, this was all truly default. I even tried after OS updates from the default installs, and still got the same results. Just too much to post.

                Really? What the fuck is different? I've tried on multiple machines, multiple OSes, it never gives that option. It even says in the Zoom docs that it's not an option by default. So what you are seeing is not "normal" according to them.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...

                  https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530

                  I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.

                  But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates
                    last edited by stacksofplates

                    so I'm hit or miss whether it works or not. The link is there @scottalanmiller but it's got a display: none; attribute and I'm not sure what causes it to display or not display. I'm going to see if I can figure that out.

                    webclient.png

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                      last edited by

                      @stacksofplates said in Zoom meeting access::

                      so I'm hit or miss whether it works or not. The link is there @scottalanmiller but it's got a display: none; attribute and I'm not sure what causes it to display or not display. I'm going to see if I can figure that out.

                      webclient.png

                      Weird, WTF.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Here is someone in another country, on macOS...

                        Screen Shot 2020-04-08 at 10.35.53 AM.png

                        Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by Obsolesce

                          @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                          I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...

                          https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530

                          I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.

                          But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?

                          I'll give that a try later and let you know. I still have the default tests available, but I'm not at the computer atm.

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                            Here is someone in another country, on macOS...

                            Screen Shot 2020-04-08 at 10.35.53 AM.png

                            Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.

                            Click the "click here" link.

                            This will appear.
                            8e33be91-ae29-41a1-a1e5-4da4a54d76c7-image.png

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                              last edited by

                              @black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::

                              @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                              Here is someone in another country, on macOS...

                              Screen Shot 2020-04-08 at 10.35.53 AM.png

                              Looks like it tries, maybe, but it never loads. It always just says Launching and offers to have you download.

                              Click the "click here" link.

                              This will appear.
                              8e33be91-ae29-41a1-a1e5-4da4a54d76c7-image.png

                              I get there, but it never, for me, shows that additional link.

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                              • black3dynamiteB
                                black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                Fedora 31 Workstation (GNOME3)
                                Google Chrome
                                Zoom Meeting app already installed.
                                Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.
                                Zoom URL: https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530

                                Peek 2020-04-08 10-45.gif

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                  last edited by

                                  @black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::

                                  Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.

                                  That might change it. I don't have a Zoom account, I use anonymously like, I assume, most people. Since I'm only a Zoom end user, not using an account, I'm not signed in. No reason to be.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
                                    last edited by stacksofplates

                                    So I've been curious. There is a hidden field that sometimes shows up and sometimes doesn't. It's:

                                    <input type="hidden" id="show_wclink_direct">
                                    

                                    The js script at the bottom of the page is looking for that.

                                    var wcLink = $(".webclient");
                                    if ($('#show_wclink_direct').length > 0 && wcLink.length > 0) {
                                    wcLink.show();
                                    }
                                    

                                    However sometimes that show_wclink_direct id never shows up in the webpage so it doesn't apply that show method.

                                    That's all I've got so far, but I'm curious as to what's going on.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                                      @black3dynamite said in Zoom meeting access::

                                      Already signed in on zoom.us with my personal account.

                                      That might change it. I don't have a Zoom account, I use anonymously like, I assume, most people. Since I'm only a Zoom end user, not using an account, I'm not signed in. No reason to be.

                                      How do you join a meeting without signing up? There's no option to do that. Once you click the view in the browser link it makes you sign in.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Zoom meeting access::

                                        I have a thought, here is the meeting I'm testing...

                                        https://us04web.zoom.us/j/7307533530

                                        I have a feeling that the ability to use a web browser might be a "paid for" feature that is based on the customer, not on the end user? I get Zoom meeting invites all the time, and never have I been given a browser option.

                                        But maybe you have someone generating Zoom invites who is paying for or setting that up as an option?

                                        Okay, so. From a fresh install of Fedora Workstation (but updated via dnf update) and default install of Firefox:
                                        2b7e6165-0328-4bec-b2c5-da71d7791bab-image.png

                                        Then from the meeting url you posted @scottalanmiller:
                                        76ddaadb-6c12-4830-a8a5-6c54042689b6-image.png

                                        The results were exactly the same in the fresh installs of Windows 10 and Ubuntu, default Edge and Firefox.

                                        This tells me the meeting settings (or meeting itself) somehow disables the usage via web browser feature.

                                        EDIT:
                                        Google Chrome in a fresh Windows 10 install does give the option, but not in Fedora:
                                        809b4064-ed0e-4041-91e2-dfd91f2a3a9c-image.png

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce
                                          last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @scottalanmiller
                                          001b8079-ef19-42b6-bc1a-51dee6edecdc-image.png

                                          Perhaps on your meeting, you disabled the ability?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Obsolesce said in Zoom meeting access::

                                            This tells me the meeting settings (or meeting itself) somehow disables the usage via web browser feature.

                                            Bizarre, but that would make sense from what we are seeing. What's odd is that no matter where I get the Zoom invite from, I've never gotten one that offered the web option - and I look every time because I absolutely hate these stupid apps. Zoom has the best app, but I still just want to run in the browser. WebEx and others don't even work, so the gap is pretty big between Zoom and the crappy wanna-bes.

                                            I wonder if it is a paid-for feature perhaps.

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