Solved 3rd party spam filter solution pricing
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
If it all goes to the same mail server, that would still allow cPanel to do that. Those are basically always just one server.
Huh?
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@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
Right, that's what I thought I was saying. I'm striking out too much today. Time to call it a night and have a drink
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@JaredBusch We use Mimecast and its great. Not sure about base pricing though.
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SpamExperts (warning owned by Solarwinds): There is one option where the price is per domain, no limits.
It is not perfect, but if you take some time training it it works very well. -
@dave_c said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
SpamExperts (warning owned by Solarwinds):
LOL, thanks for the warning
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@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
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@IRJ said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
Of course that makes sense - but customers rarely care about that.
This is the only spam filter that I've seen use message count and not user count.
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Huh - looks like I could lower my bill to $7/m
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@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@IRJ said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@scottalanmiller said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
They allow "aliases", which can be different domains. As long as they go to the same mail server they do not count as additional accounts.
You mentioned that they if they go to a single server, they don't count as additional accounts.
@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
For web resellers using a control panel like cpanel, you could put all of your customers from a single cpanel server on one account at spamhero with one domain and hundreds of aliases!
And I was pointing out that for a web reseller, there would only be a single email server so if it works that was, the $5 plan would do it for that huge volume if that was the only limit.
That's why vendors should charge by the email and not by users. Because email volume is the only way to truly calculate compute usage to process spam.
Charging by users seems pointless. What if the user only has 10 emails a month or maybe a single user gets 10k emails a month. The cost would be significantly different for vendor in that situation.
Of course that makes sense - but customers rarely care about that.
This is the only spam filter that I've seen use message count and not user count.
I've definitely seen this and I agree that this is the best way to go. Doing it by user is necessarily expensive, like giving unlimited "per user" calls. Nothing is cheaper than paying per minute actually used.
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Looks like I'm paying $22.49/m right now.. Nice savings if I move.
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@Dashrender
Heluna charges based on clean email volume processed. -
@Dashrender said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
Looks like I'm paying $22.49/m right now.. Nice savings if I move.
Looks like I'll save about $75 if I move.
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I've been running SpamHero a little over 24 hours now and I have no issues so far.
I will say that it does seem to be about 90 seconds slower than Greenview. But this is not a scientific test, just me sending mail through both spam houses at the same time and watching the inbound messages to my mail server.
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So I have now been using Spamhero for 30 hours and I see that they set a Envelope-From header that looks
like this: x2002-jyfsw3duma5djrkx7d5o1kvxvd5a704tybfnqn97fdue5e47pahvvtu3piaroi1gkbrt0njo7qhvvc74vffbj3ef@rspf.mxthunder.netThis makes managing incoming mails with ConfigServer Mail Scanner FE on cPanel quite difficult, all incoming mail from SpamHero shows a the enevelope-from: information in the ui instead of the from: info.
I'm not sure if I can get MSFE to change how it displays or not. Other spam filters (not all others, but some others) do not do this.
I'm still researching this, but if you have any thoughts, I'd like to hear them.
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@JasGot said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
I'm still researching this, but if you have any thoughts, I'd like to hear them.
Fixed by turning OFF the SPF Workaround at SpamHero (which is ON by default at setup time).
https://www.spamhero.com/support/108443/How_do_I_Enable_the_SPF_Workaround
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@Natchos said in 3rd party spam filter solution pricing:
We have been using MS Exchange Online Protection for the last 8 years. It's been working good with our on-premise Exchange server.
Price we pay is 18.99$ per user per year. We are almost at 50 users.I signed up for this. It was only $1/user/month
Switched things today. So far, all is working normally.
