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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Romo
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      @Romo said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

      Can regular http file downloads even be tagged/categorized as something different than regular web browsing?

      Not likely - It's likely all HTTPS so the Edgerouter can't tell what's happening. You'd need an application level firewall and MitM setup so the firewall could see the traffic and make decisions based on those things.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

        @Romo said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

        Can regular http file downloads even be tagged/categorized as something different than regular web browsing?

        Not likely - It's likely all HTTPS so the Edgerouter can't tell what's happening. You'd need an application level firewall and MitM setup so the firewall could see the traffic and make decisions based on those things.

        Yeah, all that traffic is likely to appear the same. Very little for QoS to do.

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          1337
          last edited by 1337

          Snappy web apps is a question of primarily latency, while download speed is a question of bandwidth over long time.

          I don't know if it's possible on the Edgerouter to set a bandwidth limit per user (IP address), for instance during working hours. But if it's possible it will solve the problem because one user can't hog all the capacity.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @1337
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            @Pete-S said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

            I don't know if it's possible on the Edgerouter to set a bandwidth limit per user (IP address), for instance during working hours. But if it's possible it will solve the problem because one user can't hog all the capacity.

            Ideally what he's like is QoS to de-prioritize traffic to and from that one machine so that only that one user has to wait for others. That way he gets all the bandwidth when needed, and scales back if someone else needs something.

            The problem with limiting him is that a whole department waits on that download that he does. So while he cripples the network, slowing him down would cripple the team.

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              1337 @scottalanmiller
              last edited by 1337

              @scottalanmiller said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

              The problem with limiting him is that a whole department waits on that download that he does. So while he cripples the network, slowing him down would cripple the team.

              That wasn't mentioned in any post.

              But if it's a recurring thing, why are the files not downloaded during the night?

              Or if it has to be during the day, isn't it possible in the Edgerouter do de-prioritize based on IP for the server, desktop or wherever the download is happening?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @Pete-S said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

                But if it's a recurring thing, why are the files not downloaded during the night?

                I asked that today 😉 They used to be, but they switched. I'm wanting to find out why.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @1337
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                  @Pete-S said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

                  Or if it has to be during the day, isn't it possible in the Edgerouter do de-prioritize based on IP for the server, desktop or wherever the download is happening?

                  It should be able to do that, I agree.

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                  • RomoR
                    Romo
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                    Just setup a traffic-policy shaper to test:

                    20% bandwidth for voip guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                    30% bandwidth for USERS PC guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                    50% bandwidth for ALL others guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth

                    Does this sound reasonable?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Romo
                      last edited by

                      @Romo said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

                      Just setup a traffic-policy shaper to test:

                      20% bandwidth for voip guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                      30% bandwidth for USERS PC guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                      50% bandwidth for ALL others guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth

                      Does this sound reasonable?

                      if you parse off 50% for those things and they aren't in use, then the bandwidth is just being wasted... I know scott has mentioned that doing this is generally bad in the past because of the waste of resources.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        @Dashrender said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

                        @Romo said in QoS on Edgerouter Lite:

                        Just setup a traffic-policy shaper to test:

                        20% bandwidth for voip guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                        30% bandwidth for USERS PC guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth
                        50% bandwidth for ALL others guaranteed with a ceiling of 100% bandwidth

                        Does this sound reasonable?

                        if you parse off 50% for those things and they aren't in use, then the bandwidth is just being wasted... I know scott has mentioned that doing this is generally bad in the past because of the waste of resources.

                        You don't read clearly. He's talking minimum guarantee at 20/30/50 and max possible when available at 100 for all.

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