Linux OS Thoughts?
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@black3dynamite said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Linux Distros ( Desktop/Laptop Use )
Each distro that I'm listing provides a Live images.-
Fedora
Fedora Workstation default desktop environment is GNOME and uses Wayland has the default display server with an option to use Xorg. If you want to install a different desktop environment and get the latest updates during installation, you will need to use the Netinstall image. -
Ubuntu
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Debian (Non-Free firmware)
Live
https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
Netinstall
https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.1.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ -
Linux Mint ( Based on Ubuntu LTS )
Cinnamon is their pride and joy desktop environment
KDE
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Elementary OS ( Based on Ubuntu LTS )
Elementary OS design layout looks similar to MacOS.
And Deepin, and Solus.
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I saw a couple of mentions of Laptops... Ubuntu 19.10 supposedly ships with NVIDIA drivers that play nicely with the Intel+NVIDIA type graphics setups. I haven't tried this... yet... but I am definitely planning on it!
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All depends on what you want to learn and how much breakage you're willing to deal with.
Everyone on here (myself included) is likely to have a certain bias for their own preferred flavor. Check out distrowatch if you haven't already done so for reviews and information on any of the suggestions offered.
Linux has come a long way from when I started using Slackware back around 2002. From there I went to Kubuntu, Sabayon, Mint and now Manjaro (Cinnamon) on desktop / laptops. Work has been mostly Ubuntu and Debian with some centos and centos-based products (xenserver) in the mix.
To come back to your question, it depends on whether you're looking to learn from a work-skills perspective or personal curiosity. If you want to do a real deep-dive you could do Linux from Scratch, Gentoo or Arch....
My personal recommendation (bias included) is to run Manjaro Cinnamon and use KVM or VirtualBox to experiment with other distros.
Reasons:- Rolling release is awesome
- It's close to bleeding edge, but still very stable
- AUR is like PPAs but so much better.
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@dafyre said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
I saw a couple of mentions of Laptops... Ubuntu 19.10 supposedly ships with NVIDIA drivers that play nicely with the Intel+NVIDIA type graphics setups. I haven't tried this... yet... but I am definitely planning on it!
Pop! OS is another too. They provide two different images, Intel/AMD and Nvidia.
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The best thing is to run a full Linux desktop that makes every point and click the same as windows.
The point is to make the day to day tasks transparent in the change.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides? -
Fedora w/ Cinnamon for a desktop. Haven't found anything that really comes close.
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@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there -
@JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
The best thing is to run a full Linux desktop that makes every point and click the same as windows.
The point is to make the day to day tasks transparent in the change.
Cinnamon isn't totally identical, but it gives the same look and feel to Windows 7.
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@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from there -
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from therethank ya
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And here is Fedora 30 Cinnamon...
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/cinnamon/download/index.html
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Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.
*should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
/typed then face palmed -
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.
*should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
/typed then face palmedInstall 30, update to 31 in a few days. The update process is educational, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Fedora 31 should be out around next week. It was due this week, but has been slightly delayed.
*should I stick with 30 or move to 31? *
/typed then face palmedInstall 30, update to 31 in a few days. The update process is educational, too.
that's why I faced palmed.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from thereDid I not have a guide here on ML?
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@JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from thereDid I not have a guide here on ML?
For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.
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@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from thereDid I not have a guide here on ML?
For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.
Is one really required?
sudo dnf install @virtualization -y -
@DustinB3403 said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@JaredBusch said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@scottalanmiller said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@WrCombs said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
@Dashrender said in Linux OS Thoughts?:
Back to the OP.
@WrCombs wants to things most likely...
a desktop environment to run in - So Fedora or Ubuntu most likely... and then a separate "server" box to install Linux Server OSes on to experiment with to do things like - setup FreePBX, setup NC, setup file server, etc.
yes.
I could even VM those, right? or no? - Forgive the newbness, but I'm thinking a Desktop and then run a VM Boxes with server OS's to do what @Dashrender is saying and thoughts on which ones to try.Boxes is weird, but yes. Throw Fedora or Ubuntu onto a laptop or desktop, install KVM, and virtualize anything that you want. You get a fully functional, and gorgeous desktop environment, but can test any server OS or alternative desktop OS that you like.
sounds like the likely chose..
I know they're out there; anyone got the link for the guides?for installing KVM ;
I'll start another list of projects that I'm going to work on and go from thereDid I not have a guide here on ML?
For KVM on Fedora? Don't recall one.
Is one really required?
sudo dnf install @virtualization -ywhat you said is not what the guide says
