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    Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop

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    • scottalanmiller
      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite last edited by

      @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

      @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

      @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

      I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

      Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

      Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

      It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

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      • JaredBusch
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

        @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

        @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

        @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

        I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

        Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

        Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

        It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

        When I get to the clients office I’ll remote in to my desk at home and see what graphics it has compared to my laptop.

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        • black3dynamite
          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

          @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

          @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

          @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

          I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

          Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

          Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

          It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

          Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite last edited by

            @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

            I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

            Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

            Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

            It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

            Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

            I will, yeah.

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            • black3dynamite
              black3dynamite last edited by

              Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

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              • JaredBusch
                JaredBusch @black3dynamite last edited by

                @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

                firing up my laptop to see what happens

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                • JaredBusch
                  JaredBusch @JaredBusch last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                  Kernel 5.3.7 is available for Fedora 30.

                  firing up my laptop to see what happens

                  Nope, reboot loop still.

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                    tyng last edited by

                    Hi, I've had exactly the same problem on HP Pavilion Desktop PC. It goes black screen as soon as it boots. I'm running Fedora with XFCE desktop environment.

                    I temporarily boot on kernel 5.2.18. I've not tested kernel 5.3.7, and am reluctant to test any other version unless I'm sure the problem is fixed, because only three versions of the kernel are kept available in Grub. Two more updates, and I lose the only working version...

                    I have not seen the problem mentioned anywhere else... so it's difficult to find out when it can be fixed...

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                    • JaredBusch
                      JaredBusch @tyng last edited by JaredBusch

                      @tyng said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                      Hi, I've had exactly the same problem on HP Pavilion Desktop PC. It goes black screen as soon as it boots. I'm running Fedora with XFCE desktop environment.

                      I temporarily boot on kernel 5.2.18. I've not tested kernel 5.3.7, and am reluctant to test any other version unless I'm sure the problem is fixed, because only three versions of the kernel are kept available in Grub. Two more updates, and I lose the only working version...

                      I have not seen the problem mentioned anywhere else... so it's difficult to find out when it can be fixed...

                      boot to the 5.2 kernel.
                      delete the newer kernels.
                      disable kernel updates in dnf.

                      If you can't figure that out from my post here, let me know.

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                        tyng last edited by

                        Hi, I found the problem also mentioned here:
                        https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/dp8xvj/issues_with_the_kernel53x_series/
                        I don't know if the problem is known by the kernel upstream...

                        Regarding Fedora updates, I always run it manually from the command line, so I just enter: dnf upgrade -x kernel*

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                          tyng @tyng last edited by

                          Fixed for me with kernel 5.3.12 (Don't know the exact version that solved the problem, it may be a previous version).

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite last edited by

                            @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                            @black3dynamite said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                            @notverypunny said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                            I've lost track of which distros are using which backends for graphics, but could it be related to xorg vs wayland or something along those lines?

                            Seems kinda of likely, but can't track it down.

                            Your desktop environment is Cinnamon? Fedora Workstation and I believe RHEL 8 and CentOS 8 that uses GNOME3 is about the only distros that defaults to wayland.

                            It is, yes. F30 with Cinnamon. The F31 that worked was Gnome 3.

                            Are you planning on trying F31 with Cinnamon?

                            And it worked fine. Doing the F31 update fixed it.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller last edited by

                              Issue returned for the last two weeks even on Fedora 31. Luckily the old F30 kernel was still there because of the lock and continued to work. But the 5.4 kernel came out today and it works again.

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                              • JaredBusch
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Blank Screen After Fedora 30 Update to 5.3.5 Kernel on Dell Inspiron Laptop:

                                Issue returned for the last two weeks even on Fedora 31. Luckily the old F30 kernel was still there because of the lock and continued to work. But the 5.4 kernel came out today and it works again.

                                I've had no issues again

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