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    Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      It's still a nascent tech.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        Why not set this up to make all of your dns queries

        Screenshot_20191001-160203_Google Play Store.jpg

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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          @Obsolesce how does that help when I do 99% of my lookups from a desktop?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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            @Obsolesce if I did that, it would bypass my PiHole and put all kinds of crap back into my pages on my phone slowing it down. That would suck.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

              @Obsolesce if I did that, it would bypass my PiHole and put all kinds of crap back into my pages on my phone slowing it down. That would suck.

              It is at least a simple DNS privacy option when you are not at home. But I found it mostly useless.

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              • dbeatoD
                dbeato @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                @scottalanmiller Yeah the services depend on doubleclick etc, so if you have those blocked, then you're SOL for using those streaming services. I was kind of pissed about it. .

                Yup, CBS does this as well.

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                • PhlipElderP
                  PhlipElder @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                  @Obsolesce if I did that, it would bypass my PiHole and put all kinds of crap back into my pages on my phone slowing it down. That would suck.

                  All of our edge devices are set to block DNS queries from anywhere but the local DNS server. So, no avoiding it.

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                  • PhlipElderP
                    PhlipElder
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                    Ugh: https://support.umbrella.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001371526-Web-Browsers-and-DNS-over-HTTPS-default

                    Cisco/Umbrella/OpenDNS instructions to block DoH. 😛

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
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                      @PhlipElder said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                      Cisco/Umbrella/OpenDNS instructions to block DoH.

                      Well it involves security and Cisco doesn't like security.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
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                        So I am thinking this makes search engine data much more valuable when your ISP isnt able to sell your information as easily.

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                          JasGot @IRJ
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                          @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                          this makes search engine data much more valuable

                          Follow the money, right? Good catch!

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @JasGot
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                            @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                            @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                            this makes search engine data much more valuable

                            Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                            Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @IRJ
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                              @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                              @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                              @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                              this makes search engine data much more valuable

                              Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                              Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

                              It's called money, yes Google is a for profit company. Get over it.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                So I am thinking this makes search engine data much more valuable when your ISP isnt able to sell your information as easily.

                                Sensible.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                  @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                  @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                  @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                  this makes search engine data much more valuable

                                  Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                                  Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

                                  It's called money, yes Google is a for profit company. Get over it.

                                  The people that use duckduckgo are the true winners here 🏆

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                    @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                    @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                    @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                    this makes search engine data much more valuable

                                    Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                                    Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

                                    It's called money, yes Google is a for profit company. Get over it.

                                    The people that use duckduckgo are the true winners here 🏆

                                    I still use Google but my default search engine is still duckduckgo. Big fan of their shortcuts.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                      @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                      @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                      @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                      this makes search engine data much more valuable

                                      Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                                      Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

                                      It's called money, yes Google is a for profit company. Get over it.

                                      The people that use duckduckgo are the true winners here 🏆

                                      People like me.

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                                      • wrx7mW
                                        wrx7m @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                        @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                        @JasGot said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                        @IRJ said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                        this makes search engine data much more valuable

                                        Follow the money, right? Good catch!

                                        Definitely a good thing overall, but as expected something is always in it for Google

                                        It's called money, yes Google is a for profit company. Get over it.

                                        The people that use duckduckgo are the true winners here 🏆

                                        I tried to use duckduckgo for about 2 months. I still prefer the google results.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce
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                                          I use Bing 95% of the time

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Obsolesce said in Why big ISPs aren’t happy about Google’s plans for encrypted DNS:

                                            I use Bing 95% of the time

                                            bahah loser.

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