VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only
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Also consider that it's going to be STUPID cold there in the winter.... more or less halfway between Winnipeg (aka Winterpeg) and Regina.....
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@notverypunny said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
Also consider that it's going to be STUPID cold there in the winter.... more or less halfway between Winnipeg (aka Winterpeg) and Regina.....
I'll be working in Saskatoon in a few weeks, lol.
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@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
Oil town on the #1 highway, so the cost of living isn't as low as it could be, but still relatively low.
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@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
Gotcha. The real issue then is just the use of the term VP. The money and position and location all seem okay. But being a VP anywhere at that kind of salary is... misleading.
What are they supposed to do for a fancy title when all the C-level titles are already taken? :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
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@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
Gotcha. The real issue then is just the use of the term VP. The money and position and location all seem okay. But being a VP anywhere at that kind of salary is... misleading.
What are they supposed to do for a fancy title when all the C-level titles are already taken? :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
I believe you're being funny.. but why is there a need to us VP at all - just call them a director or manager. Though in some places director is higher than VP.
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@Dashrender said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
Gotcha. The real issue then is just the use of the term VP. The money and position and location all seem okay. But being a VP anywhere at that kind of salary is... misleading.
What are they supposed to do for a fancy title when all the C-level titles are already taken? :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
I believe you're being funny.. but why is there a need to us VP at all - just call them a director or manager. Though in some places director is higher than VP.
No idea
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@notverypunny said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
Also consider that it's going to be STUPID cold there in the winter.... more or less halfway between Winnipeg (aka Winterpeg) and Regina.....
I welcome the stupid cold. It's the freezing rain then blizzard on ice covered roads that's worse.
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@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
I grew up in Winnipeg. Winterpeg, ManItsColdOut indeed. Coldest thermometer temp I've been in is -56C.
Virden is in a beautiful area. The Carberry Desert is an hour away and a really neat place to visit.
The Narcisse Snake Pits are a 4 hour drive which is a bit much but worth the trip. Riding Mountain is a great park and there's lots of amazing camping and fishing places just east, west, and north.
Grand Beach is, or was, one of the top ten white sand beaches in the world. Only a 45 minute trip north of Winnipeg we'd be up there virtually every weekend in the summer along with a significant portion of the city's population.
The winters were, and still are, quite cold. The summers can be very hot and humid due to the two large lakes not too far away. Summer storms can be very exciting and quite regular. Mosquitoes can carry small children away at their peak.
As far as the ad goes, meh. It reads like a cut and paste of bullets from various ads with no real coherence across the lists. There are a number of key indicators missing such as reporting structures, training certifications, and/or equipment specifics.
IMNSHO, it's an attempt to appear a lot bigger than they are.
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@Dashrender said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
Gotcha. The real issue then is just the use of the term VP. The money and position and location all seem okay. But being a VP anywhere at that kind of salary is... misleading.
What are they supposed to do for a fancy title when all the C-level titles are already taken? :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:
I believe you're being funny.. but why is there a need to us VP at all - just call them a director or manager. Though in some places director is higher than VP.
Director is normally either a VP themselves or senior to them. VP is a different type of title than Director. Director, like manager, or C, denotes a level in an operational stack. VP denotes a level in the executive chain.
In a company this small, VP, Director, are both ridiculous. Even manager is likely bad, are they managing people rather than tech?
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@PhlipElder said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
IMNSHO, it's an attempt to appear a lot bigger than they are.
Big companies don't use those kinds of titles in that way. Only tiny ones. I makes me think that it's a one man show. E.g. using titles like this make companies look really small.
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Now to be fair, it says VP of Ops and Tech. This implies that the senior ops and IT positions report to this VP. Ops is "the business", like the whole thing. Departments like HR, finance, legal, etc. are not ops. But everything that a company "does" is under ops. So we might be misreading this. IT is likely a tiny side piece to this. The title implies that essentially everyone would report to this person.
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Assuming a company of 100 employees, a VP of Ops would be expected to have generally 50-80 of those employees. IT would have like, you know, one. So it is lost in the noise.
Looking at this as an IT position makes it look ridiculously small. But looking at it as the overseer of both Ops and IT as the title says, it makes way more sense.
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@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
Assuming a company of 100 employees, a VP of Ops would be expected to have generally 50-80 of those employees. IT would have like, you know, one. So it is lost in the noise.
Looking at this as an IT position makes it look ridiculously small. But looking at it as the overseer of both Ops and IT as the title says, it makes way more sense.
It's an ISP, so hopefully they have more than 1 IT person.
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@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
Assuming a company of 100 employees, a VP of Ops would be expected to have generally 50-80 of those employees. IT would have like, you know, one. So it is lost in the noise.
Looking at this as an IT position makes it look ridiculously small. But looking at it as the overseer of both Ops and IT as the title says, it makes way more sense.
It's an ISP, so hopefully they have more than 1 IT person.
Many don't. Small regional ISPs often have only one or even zero. We do consulting for several ISPs, some have their own IT and some do not. And we work with others that we know had zero people of an L2 level, but did have call center level people (the kind you'd outsource if you knew how.) Getting real IT support inside a small ISP is actually, I think, relatively rare.
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@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
I'd assume the opposite. Cost of every day things will probably be more. At least that's how it tended to work in the US when I was driving truck. Having to ship everything that far is going to cost.
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@travisdh1 said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
I'd assume the opposite. Cost of every day things will probably be more. At least that's how it tended to work in the US when I was driving truck. Having to ship everything that far is going to cost.
That's not really the case outside of Puerto Rico. Remember that most stuff comes from Walmart or Amazon and their prices are flat by region. Fuel doesn't really vary between city and country like that, either. But local produce is way cheaper, as is housing, and local labour costs. So if I am buying socks, or a stereo, or gas, or lunch I'm going to be equal. But if paying for my housing or plumbing services, it'll be cheaper.
Some cities, like NYC, get a few rare things dirt cheap that you'd never expect. But on average, they cost a little more. Not as much more as people often think, but more.
One obvious exception tends to be ISP services. Rural ISPs tend to be double or more the cost of metro ones.
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@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@travisdh1 said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@manxam said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@scottalanmiller : It's also in a town of 3300 people and 3 hours away from a major city so I'd assume cost-of-living will be relatively low.
I'd assume the opposite. Cost of every day things will probably be more. At least that's how it tended to work in the US when I was driving truck. Having to ship everything that far is going to cost.
That's not really the case outside of Puerto Rico. Remember that most stuff comes from Walmart or Amazon and their prices are flat by region. Fuel doesn't really vary between city and country like that, either. But local produce is way cheaper, as is housing, and local labour costs. So if I am buying socks, or a stereo, or gas, or lunch I'm going to be equal. But if paying for my housing or plumbing services, it'll be cheaper.
Some cities, like NYC, get a few rare things dirt cheap that you'd never expect. But on average, they cost a little more. Not as much more as people often think, but more.
One obvious exception tends to be ISP services. Rural ISPs tend to be double or more the cost of metro ones.
Gas and groceries are more expensive. Local produce is only available a couple months, and isn't cheaper than imported. Oil company presence inflates the price of many services.
What makes the biggest difference to our bottom line is having to have two vehicles. In the city we just had one.
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@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
What makes the biggest difference to our bottom line is having to have two vehicles. In the city we just had one.
Why two? Here it's one outside the cities and zero inside, normally. What's the second one for?
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@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
What makes the biggest difference to our bottom line is having to have two vehicles. In the city we just had one.
Why two? Here it's one outside the cities and zero inside, normally. What's the second one for?
I haven't touched a car in 7 months lol.
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@scottalanmiller said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
@flaxking said in VP of Operations and Technology - Canada only:
What makes the biggest difference to our bottom line is having to have two vehicles. In the city we just had one.
Why two? Here it's one outside the cities and zero inside, normally. What's the second one for?
We don't live in the towns where we work.
