Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
And the fact that the pages all show different shite depending on what OS you're coming from just makes this even more crazy - Though I'm betting that's just lazy programming more than anything.
In general, license information is something I don't think MS allows "lazy" to come into. They are crazy strategic about this stuff.
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@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
And the fact that the pages all show different shite depending on what OS you're coming from just makes this even more crazy - Though I'm betting that's just lazy programming more than anything.
In general, license information is something I don't think MS allows "lazy" to come into. They are crazy strategic about this stuff.
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit (ok not really still have to have valid Win 7 or 8.1 license) but if you download from windows - you get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system... that just seems crazy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)
Can you imagine having to accept a EULA before you even get to see the EULA? A judge would throw the entire thing out in a heartbeat.
Plaintiff: Your honor, I can't possible accept the EULA for <whatever> without being given the chance to read and accept the EULA.
Microsoft: Your honor, we really just want to force anything and everything down any user or company that ever even wants to consider our product.
Judge: Yeah MS. . . eat an entire bag of ****s. -
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)
There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.
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@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)
There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.
And there is a third, within Windows, after the install.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.
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@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Obsolesce said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Here is the all important bit of information, directly on the MCT website.
That line is the strongest argument against the availability of the free upgrade, not for it. This is where I'd have to agree with @bnrstnr that that is suggestive that another license is required prior to downloading the MCT.
According to the EULAs, you do have a license to upgrade to Win10 by having a proper Win7 or 8.1.
That's the hard part, does the EULA come into effect before or after the download? After, AFAIK. And the MCT seems to say (on that one page) that you need a Windows 10 Installation License and are upgrading. Not that you have a valid license and are upgrading.
The wording is subtle but matters. But isn't universally present in all Windows 10 acquisition methods.
It depends on the device you are ON when you go to the site and download the MCT and run it. On one device I get a straightforward EULA. On another, I get a single paragraph. I have not tried it on a Win7 device.
The EULA itself should appear after install, not prior to install (well during, you know.)
There are two EULAs. One for the MCT that appears first, then after a few nexts, prior to install while still in MCT, the June 2018 Windows software EULA.
OIC, okay.
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@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.
Mostly sure, but there is the legitimate reason of "Windows 10 is acting fuckery, so I want to reinstall it, let me go and get the MCT from Microsoft and build a new bootable USB"
So your stance is again, Tinfoil Hat related.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.
that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.
The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.
I'd agree that it is insane. But almost everyone is, actually, downloading on the machine that they are on because of how it works. The Linux situation I am in is definitely the outlier by far. There are solid cases where you would do this (Windows 7 machine without Internet access), but they are anything but the norm.
Since you have to download the MCT every time, doing it to a separate machine on any scale doesn't work.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.
that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.
The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.
Interesting. If that was the case, then it likely was the same as the Windows 10 one now, with Windows 8 having had a free upgrade option that expired when Windows 8 licenses were no longer valid (past end of life.)
Basically what you are describing is the same as the MCT process. Just through a different link.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.
This is basically exactly what we are describing now. Except obviously the Store has failed and they use their website now rather than the Store everyone universally blocks or ignores.
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.
I'd agree that it is insane. But almost everyone is, actually, downloading on the machine that they are on because of how it works. The Linux situation I am in is definitely the outlier by far. There are solid cases where you would do this (Windows 7 machine without Internet access), but they are anything but the norm.
Since you have to download the MCT every time, doing it to a separate machine on any scale doesn't work.
What makes you think you need to download the MCT every time?
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@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.
that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.
The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.
Interesting. If that was the case, then it likely was the same as the Windows 10 one now, with Windows 8 having had a free upgrade option that expired when Windows 8 licenses were no longer valid (past end of life.)
Basically what you are describing is the same as the MCT process. Just through a different link.
I would equate it more to the rolling updates to Windows 10, but I get your point... yeah sure it was deployed via the Windows Store instead of Windows update...
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@DustinB3403 said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
So now you're saying that if you download the MCT from Linux - that you just get free shit
No, but that Microsoft is saying you can use this to install Windows 10 onto your hardware, but that doesn't imply that you are licensed accordingly.
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
ou get this potential that you can't actually use MCT unless you have a valid Windows 10 license first AND are using MCT to upgrade a win 7 or 8.1 system...
Yes, because you can pull the OS details from a web browser, so they can make the reasonable assumption that you are appropriate licensed and valid for upgrade.
that's insane - almost no one here is downloading MCT for use on the machine they are downloading on, so that scan is mostly pointless.
I'd agree that it is insane. But almost everyone is, actually, downloading on the machine that they are on because of how it works. The Linux situation I am in is definitely the outlier by far. There are solid cases where you would do this (Windows 7 machine without Internet access), but they are anything but the norm.
Since you have to download the MCT every time, doing it to a separate machine on any scale doesn't work.
What makes you think you need to download the MCT every time?
Because the EULA provided by the tool very explicitly says that you can only use it on one machine. An annoyance and MS will never, ever catch you. But to stay fully legal, you have to download and run uniquely for each install.
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@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@Dashrender said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
@scottalanmiller said in Free Upgrade to Windows 10 in 2019 from Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1:
Also worth noting, according to the MCT page, only Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are eligible for upgrade, NOT Windows 8!
I assume because Windows 8 left support early, so is no longer valid.
Sure, but 8 can be upgraded to 8.1 (at least as far as I know it still can be).
Never could. Why would you think that that upgrade was free but others are not (other than paperwork.) Windows 10 is the first upgrade ever offered for free.
that is purely wrong! I upgraded all of my Windows 8 machines around my office to Windows 8.1 for free. Now you're telling me I broke the law? hey considering this conversation - anything's possible.
The windows 8.1 upgrade came from the Windows store. once you installed the 8.1, digital rights for 8.1 where assigned to your machine and could be reinstalled from scratch.
Interesting. If that was the case, then it likely was the same as the Windows 10 one now, with Windows 8 having had a free upgrade option that expired when Windows 8 licenses were no longer valid (past end of life.)
Basically what you are describing is the same as the MCT process. Just through a different link.
I would equate it more to the rolling updates to Windows 10, but I get your point... yeah sure it was deployed via the Windows Store instead of Windows update...
Windows 8 to 8.1 is the same leap as any other Windows full major release update.
XP to Vista
Vista to 7
7 to 8
8 to 8.1
8.1 to the first Windows 10 release
