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    Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      And more to the point did enabling SMB1 resolve the issue?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        Last question for now, is the client software QuickBooks?

        https://media.tenor.com/images/7629d456b68179bebc19e525c8aeb051/tenor.gif

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 lol, no, it is not. It is an obscure vertical scheduling package.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

            And more to the point did enabling SMB1 resolve the issue?

            Won't know till we get a window to reboot it.

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            • pmonchoP
              pmoncho @scottalanmiller
              last edited by pmoncho

              @scottalanmiller said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

              @DustinB3403 said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

              And more to the point did enabling SMB1 resolve the issue?

              Won't know till we get a window to reboot it.

              On SW (emoji's won't work for some reason), a post seems slightly related because it was dealing with SMB shares on 2019.

              It linked to MS site for the fix -

              https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/8aa6a88c-ffc8-4ede-abfc-42e746ff5996/windows-server-2019-hyperv-guest-on-windows-server-2019-hyperv-host?forum=winserverhyperv&prof=required

              It mentioned Disabling RCS on the vswitch and/or the NIC itself.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                You might look at VMQ.. it is supposedly not a problem anymore. but meh...

                https://www.republicofit.com/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                I would second this -- both at the HOST and inside the VMs (if it's there).

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                • larsen161L
                  larsen161
                  last edited by larsen161

                  What data (not user feedback) do you have from before the migration that you're comparing to now to validate the issue? Knowing this can help identity the issue

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                    JasGot
                    last edited by

                    What windows version is on the client? It's not 10 / 1803 or newer is it?

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                      JasGot
                      last edited by

                      Did you get this resolved?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @JasGot
                        last edited by

                        @JasGot said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                        Did you get this resolved?

                        I was going to followup and ask this myself.

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                        • notverypunnyN
                          notverypunny
                          last edited by notverypunny

                          Safe to assume that any other moving parts have been taken out of the picture / accounted for (change in AV for instance)?

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                          • K
                            krisleslie
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                            @scottalanmiller that's hardly any difference than Intuit Quickbooks. I have the same issue. However, it's more than likely SMB that causes that crap.

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                              taurex
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                              I wonder if the new feature in Server 2019 called SMB WriteThrough would help in this situation. https://www.veeam.com/blog/new-smb-client-parameter-windows-server.html

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                              • K
                                krisleslie
                                last edited by krisleslie

                                @scottalanmiller just read this post from Intuit support which I know what your talking about is different. But I recall Intuit not even supporting NAS/SAN unless it was built on a Windows or Linux system. But some reports from intuit say defragmentation causes the problem, even when on an SSD. I smell fish.

                                ![alt text](2019-08-21_09h12_12.png image url)

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                  And more to the point did enabling SMB1 resolve the issue?

                                  It did a ton, but going to see what more can be done. But it was a great start.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @krisleslie
                                    last edited by

                                    @krisleslie said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                    But I recall Intuit not even supporting NAS/SAN unless it was built on a Windows or Linux system.

                                    Intuit can't even tell if it is built on one of those. Effectively, they are all built on one or the other, alternatives are super rare and limited to the crazy high end. MOstly it just rules out NetApp, which of course works better than pretty anyone. So that's how dumb that is.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                      You might look at VMQ.. it is supposedly not a problem anymore. but meh...

                                      https://www.republicofit.com/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                      Testing this tonight.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                        You might look at VMQ.. it is supposedly not a problem anymore. but meh...

                                        https://www.republicofit.com/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                        Testing this tonight.

                                        I'd disable VMQ anywhere you can find it. At the host level and the guest os level.

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                                          JasGot
                                          last edited by JasGot

                                          Did you try the DirectoryCacheLifetime I mentioned in chat?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JasGot
                                            last edited by

                                            @JasGot said in Windows 2019 Slower Than Windows 2012 R2:

                                            Did you try the DirectoryCacheLifetime I mentioned in chat?

                                            One thing at a time. Can't change two things at once or we won't know what is or isn't working.

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