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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

      Apparently that a SMS was sent to Bob.

      Except it's only used for account creation and not verification of account changes/charges/etc/etc/etc

      @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

      The SMS thing is not used for future correspondence and we don't call it or use it ever again.

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite
        last edited by

        Just for kicks, I tried using my Google Voice number and it failed.

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        • SkyetelS
          Skyetel @black3dynamite
          last edited by

          @black3dynamite said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

          Just for kicks, I tried using my Google Voice number and it failed.

          It isn't 100% accurate, but its close enough to be effective 🙂

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          • SkyetelS
            Skyetel @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

            @Dashrender said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

            Apparently that a SMS was sent to Bob.

            Except it's only used for account creation and not verification of account changes/charges/etc/etc/etc

            @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

            The SMS thing is not used for future correspondence and we don't call it or use it ever again.

            Correct - we don't use it for authentication or correspondence. It's strictly used for account creation.

            When we do introduce 2FA, we'll use Google Authenticator 🙂

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
              last edited by

              And all of that does not get around the fact that I cannot create accounts for the bussinesses that I would be interested in this service for because the businesses do not have cell phones to create an account with.

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                bnrstnr
                last edited by bnrstnr

                @Skyetel Could Jared just call/email you and setup an account for his clients without this cell phone requirement?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Skyetel
                  last edited by

                  @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                  The ideal situation is to have the end user create their own account and have the IT team administer it. You don't have to share an account - you can create a new account for the IT Administrator and he can administer it directly without sharing credentials. (Thats what @scottalanmiller does)

                  There is no menu, that I can find, to create a sub account on my account to enable someone else to log in and administrate my account.

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                  • SkyetelS
                    Skyetel @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                    @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                    The ideal situation is to have the end user create their own account and have the IT team administer it. You don't have to share an account - you can create a new account for the IT Administrator and he can administer it directly without sharing credentials. (Thats what @scottalanmiller does)

                    There is no menu, that I can find, to create a sub account on my account to enable someone else to log in and administrate my account.

                    Shoot in a support ticket and they create them for you along with a temporary password.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @bnrstnr
                      last edited by

                      @bnrstnr said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                      @Skyetel Could Jared just call you and setup an account for his clients without this cell phone requirement?

                      At this point? I refuse.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Skyetel
                        last edited by

                        @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                        @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                        @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                        The ideal situation is to have the end user create their own account and have the IT team administer it. You don't have to share an account - you can create a new account for the IT Administrator and he can administer it directly without sharing credentials. (Thats what @scottalanmiller does)

                        There is no menu, that I can find, to create a sub account on my account to enable someone else to log in and administrate my account.

                        Shoot in a support ticket and they create them for you along with a temporary password.

                        Part of this?
                        https://skyetel.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SUG/pages/664141827/Tenants+Invite+Only+Alpha

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                        • SkyetelS
                          Skyetel @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                          @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                          @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                          @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                          The ideal situation is to have the end user create their own account and have the IT team administer it. You don't have to share an account - you can create a new account for the IT Administrator and he can administer it directly without sharing credentials. (Thats what @scottalanmiller does)

                          There is no menu, that I can find, to create a sub account on my account to enable someone else to log in and administrate my account.

                          Shoot in a support ticket and they create them for you along with a temporary password.

                          Part of this?
                          https://skyetel.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SUG/pages/664141827/Tenants+Invite+Only+Alpha

                          Tenants is being designed for use cases such as this and is under active development. It will also include a Tenant Portal where end users can view their assets (like phone numbers or call recordings or faxes) without being able to make changes or with different permissions from the Administrator.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @Skyetel
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                            @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                            @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                            @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                            @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                            The ideal situation is to have the end user create their own account and have the IT team administer it. You don't have to share an account - you can create a new account for the IT Administrator and he can administer it directly without sharing credentials. (Thats what @scottalanmiller does)

                            There is no menu, that I can find, to create a sub account on my account to enable someone else to log in and administrate my account.

                            Shoot in a support ticket and they create them for you along with a temporary password.

                            Part of this?
                            https://skyetel.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/SUG/pages/664141827/Tenants+Invite+Only+Alpha

                            Tenants is being designed for use cases such as this and is under active development. It will also include a Tenant Portal where end users can view their assets (like phone numbers or call recordings or faxes) without being able to make changes or with different permissions from the Administrator.

                            Then I refuse. Because a tenant is absolutely not what is being discussed.

                            A tenant is a very specific thing and has nothing to do with additional administrators on an account.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              At this point @Skyetel, I am back to your company being nothing but a waste of time.

                              You do not respect business in any way.

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                              • SkyetelS
                                Skyetel @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                At this point @Skyetel, I am back to your company being nothing but a waste of time.

                                You do not respect business in any way.

                                I'm sorry you feel that way but I wish you the best of luck with other providers 🙂

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Skyetel
                                  last edited by

                                  @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                  @JaredBusch said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                  At this point @Skyetel, I am back to your company being nothing but a waste of time.

                                  You do not respect business in any way.

                                  I'm sorry you feel that way but I wish you the best of luck with other providers 🙂

                                  You are obviously not sorry. You have never once actually addressed my concern about using your service in a valid business context. You simply repeat your bullshit about fraud prevention.

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                                  • zachary715Z
                                    zachary715
                                    last edited by

                                    My god dude move on. The level of bitching is just crazy. You've spoken your frustrations, so move on and don't worry about them anymore.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @zachary715
                                      last edited by

                                      @zachary715 said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                      My god dude move on. The level of bitching is just crazy. You've spoken your frustrations, so move on and don't worry about them anymore.

                                      Get over yourself. I asked a simple question. They repeatedly have refused to answer it.

                                      I’ve never once been upset or mad.

                                      Disappointed is more like it.

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                                        JasGot @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by JasGot

                                        @JaredBusch Once you stop requiring companies deliver more than they are capable of or willing to, you'll find you aren't so unhappy.

                                        What you're doing is no different than getting mad because the six passenger car you fancy won't seat 7 people.

                                        Why are you out to get Skyetel anyway? First you were pissed they don't publish their partner rates, now you're pissed they need a cell phone to satisfy the business model they are currently operating with. If you don't like the way they operate, choose another provider. You live in a capitalist society...... You have options. And if you don't, build your own option; call it Buschtel.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @Skyetel
                                          last edited by

                                          @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                          @Dashrender said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                          That's all fine and dandy.. but I can't sign my company up (I'm the IT Admin here) because I'm not giving you my personal cellphone for a company sign up.

                                          Other systems have done setups that get through IVRs to internal extensions - that's what would be needed in my office.

                                          Requiring SMS for business is seemingly absurd.

                                          We don't require it as a means for contacting you - we never use it - its just for the signup process to verify you are a human and to prevent duplicate accounts. On the next step under "Organization Info" it will ask you for the contact information to use.

                                          Why not a credit card like all the real businesses?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Obsolesce said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                            @Skyetel said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                            @Dashrender said in I guess Skyetel doesn't want business:

                                            That's all fine and dandy.. but I can't sign my company up (I'm the IT Admin here) because I'm not giving you my personal cellphone for a company sign up.

                                            Other systems have done setups that get through IVRs to internal extensions - that's what would be needed in my office.

                                            Requiring SMS for business is seemingly absurd.

                                            We don't require it as a means for contacting you - we never use it - its just for the signup process to verify you are a human and to prevent duplicate accounts. On the next step under "Organization Info" it will ask you for the contact information to use.

                                            Why not a credit card like all the real businesses?

                                            Now I could get behind that.

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