FortiGate - Speedtest



  • Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    What exactly are you attempting to test?



  • @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    What exactly are you attempting to test?

    If we are getting the bandwidth that we are paying from the ISP.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    What exactly are you attempting to test?

    If we are getting the bandwidth that we are paying from the ISP.

    First, I will tell you that your line is provisioned to provide you exactly what you paid for.
    No ISP will choose to go out of business by providing less.

    Second, what you paid for and what you think you paid for can be very different in the low end market.

    Finally, if you don't trust a test through your router, the problem is your router, or your configuration of it, not the ISP.



  • Now, that said, of course there are times when issues arise and you need to test the line and then call support and have them fix shit.

    But again, if you cannot trust a test through your router, the problem is you, not the ISP.



  • @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    What exactly are you attempting to test?

    If we are getting the bandwidth that we are paying from the ISP.

    First, I will tell you that your line is provisioned to provide you exactly what you paid for.
    No ISP will choose to go out of business by providing less.

    Second, what you paid for and what you think you paid for can be very different in the low end market.

    Finally, if you don't trust a test through your router, the problem is your router, or your configuration of it, not the ISP.

    I actually test it removing the router and plugging the laptop (using the assigned public IP) directly to the ISP source. And the result i get doesn't make sense.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @JaredBusch said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Hi,
    Is there a way for me to do speedtest from FortiGate 100D? I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    What exactly are you attempting to test?

    If we are getting the bandwidth that we are paying from the ISP.

    First, I will tell you that your line is provisioned to provide you exactly what you paid for.
    No ISP will choose to go out of business by providing less.

    Second, what you paid for and what you think you paid for can be very different in the low end market.

    Finally, if you don't trust a test through your router, the problem is your router, or your configuration of it, not the ISP.

    I actually test it removing the router and plugging the laptop (using the assigned public IP) directly to the ISP source. And the result i get doesn't make sense.

    This is highly unlikely to simply "just work"

    What type of service is it? Coax? Those bind to the MAC address of the hardware. Typically needing a reboot of the modem when you change what it is plugged in to, even when cloning a MAC.

    Fiber service from a telco? Odds are their hardware only works with specific configurations of the NIC. Typically 100mb full duplex. If you leave the hardware on automatic, it does not work correctly.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    I usually go to speedtest.net to check bandwidth but I'm hoping Fortigate will have a built-in command to speedtest or a browser for me to do a speedtest within Fortigate.

    Last I knew, it does not have a capability to do this. To do something like that requires more RAM than most devices like that have so the test would be difficult to perform there.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    I actually test it removing the router and plugging the laptop (using the assigned public IP) directly to the ISP source. And the result i get doesn't make sense.

    Let's start with this. How did you test and what results did you get? And why do they not make sense? And what did you expect the results to be.



  • For starters this are the limits of your model

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    Now do you have anything of that enabled?



  • Fortigate dashboard shows we are using 40MB and spikes to 80MB. When i test my laptop directly connected to ISP i get 15MB download / 80 MB upload. I'm expecting to get near 100MB as thats what we are paying for.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Fortigate dashboard shows we are using 40MB and spikes to 80MB. When i test my laptop directly connected to ISP i get 15MB download / 80 MB upload. I'm expecting to get near 100MB as thats what we are paying for.

    That tells you that the laptop has something limiting it. If the Fortigate can push more than that, then something is up with the laptop.



  • @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Fortigate dashboard shows we are using 40MB and spikes to 80MB. When i test my laptop directly connected to ISP i get 15MB download / 80 MB upload. I'm expecting to get near 100MB as thats what we are paying for.

    That tells you that the laptop has something limiting it. If the Fortigate can push more than that, then something is up with the laptop.

    The laptop gets 80MB upload, i assume if the laptop have some limit policy on it. the upload will be capped at 15MB as well.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    Fortigate dashboard shows we are using 40MB and spikes to 80MB. When i test my laptop directly connected to ISP i get 15MB download / 80 MB upload. I'm expecting to get near 100MB as thats what we are paying for.

    That tells you that the laptop has something limiting it. If the Fortigate can push more than that, then something is up with the laptop.

    The laptop gets 80MB upload, i assume if the laptop have some limit policy on it. the upload will be capped at 15MB as well.

    That's not a logical assumption. I'm not sure why you associate the two, or believe that there is a cap. But none what you said should be derived from what is known, assumed, expected, or observed.



  • First, we have to assume that there is no cap. I'm not sure where the idea of caps came from, but there is no reason to expect any and the tests tell us that there almost certainly aren't.



  • Second, we know from the FortiGate measurements that the line is working just fine. Maybe it doesn't get to 100Mb/s, but it almost certainly does because you are getting so close to the correct limits under normal load. So we can just assume that the line and the ISP are doing what they are supposed to do.



  • So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?



  • @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?

    9 MB DL / 89 MB UL



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?

    9 MB DL / 89 MB UL

    Okay so consistently we know that the laptop has some problems. So it isn't useful for testing. Why your laptop has network problems is another question, but isn't related to your ISP.



  • @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?

    9 MB DL / 89 MB UL

    Okay so consistently we know that the laptop has some problems. So it isn't useful for testing. Why your laptop has network problems is another question, but isn't related to your ISP.

    thanks, will try another laptop.



  • @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?

    9 MB DL / 89 MB UL

    Okay so consistently we know that the laptop has some problems. So it isn't useful for testing. Why your laptop has network problems is another question, but isn't related to your ISP.

    thanks, will try another laptop.

    You aren't trying to use wireless in any of this, are you?



  • @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @maximus said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    So it seems that the issue is likely the laptop. What does speedtest tell us from the laptop when connected to the network as usual, rather than directly to the ISP's connection?

    9 MB DL / 89 MB UL

    Okay so consistently we know that the laptop has some problems. So it isn't useful for testing. Why your laptop has network problems is another question, but isn't related to your ISP.

    thanks, will try another laptop.

    You aren't trying to use wireless in any of this, are you?

    nope.



  • You should be OK with a laptop for these speeds.

    I'd suggest trying a linux install with iperf3. You could try iperf3 on Windows but my recent adventures with it have shown that iperf on Windows is garbage, vastly inferior results when compared to the linux install.

    Other thing to consider is your AV and security stuff on windows... might have to tweak exceptions or disable it (temporarily)



  • @notverypunny said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    You should be OK with a laptop for these speeds.

    A laptop, yes. That's not the point. The issue is something with this particular setup, laptop or whatever, can't get the speeds so testing with it doesn't tell him anything useful.



  • @scottalanmiller said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    @notverypunny said in FortiGate - Speedtest:

    You should be OK with a laptop for these speeds.

    A laptop, yes. That's not the point. The issue is something with this particular setup, laptop or whatever, can't get the speeds so testing with it doesn't tell him anything useful.

    I've run into issues specifically for laptops where I couldn't get decent speeds, something either with the HW specifically or power-management / network stack wouldn't allow me to get the same speeds as a server / workstation connected to the exact same port / equipment. Regardless, you're correct that this laptop seems to have issues.

    Is the package 100MB up and down? Is it a full 100 or a "burstable" setup (not sure how common this one is, but at a former gig we had a line that was provisioned at one speed but would allow temporary surges to another tier before automatically throttling back to the base rate.)

    using iperf3
    DOWNLOAD SPEEDS

    iperf3 -c iperf.he.net -R -P 10
    

    UPLOAD SPEEDS

    iperf3 -c iperf.he.net -P 10
    

    You can check a list of public iperf servers :
    https://iperf.fr/iperf-servers.php
    if you're in another region or if the HE ones are too busy


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