Skyetel auto enables billable services without notice
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@JaredBusch I can confirm that your suggested changes have been made to our Port In page. I'm sorry that you found our billing system confusing and I have refunded your $0.11. (I actually had to give you $1 - our system won't let me go lower than that lol)
I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@FATeknollogee said in Skyetel is a scam:
@IRJ said in Skyetel is a scam:
...It is not a nice feeling for the customer to see a negative balance in their account and not know what it is about.
Really, damn, are you that sensitive?
It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.
Exactly. Negative balance leave the impression being behind, not current.
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@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.
aka hidden it like your pricing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.
Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.
Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.
This is true - our LNP team should not have ported the number without first reaching out to him about having a $0 balance. We made a mistake and we're going to be making sure to clarify that with our team
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.
Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.
Correct. Hence why I assumed the $10 of the $10.11 was a new charge.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.
aka hidden it like your pricing.
Well, more like hiding the fact that is clearly isn't a scam and you made a false statement. Yes, there was a mistake about the eleven cents. Good that that was tracked down. But a long thread where you are trying to act like you discovered a scam when clearly you have not, and it's all about eleven cents, it's crazy.
If you believe that the issue is not the eleven cents but about the wrong services being on by default, then you must change the title or you are hiding what the thread is about. If you keep it, you are making it about eleven cents.
Which is it?
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
It's not about sensitive. Accounting departments can be incredibly cranky about things being negative and not "due". Negative usually means past due, and can get people up in arms.
Normally the system is pay ahead only, that he was able to port with no money on the account is odd. It is, under normal circumstances (and this is pretty standard for trunk providers for many reasons) standard to only allow you to pay ahead and send a notice when you are getting low on funds so that you can "top up", either manually or automatically. Under normal conditions here, I wouldn't expect a possibility of being in the negative.
Correct. Hence why I assumed the $10 of the $10.11 was a new charge.
I agree that that would be confusing to see.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
then you must change the title
That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of that.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of thThat is what it is, agreed that it doesn't change the quoted replies. But for someone coming to the thread and looking at the title as the source of "topic", I think that it will do a lot. It will make it clear that the issue was dug into, that "scam" is the wrong term, that there was something wrong that was discovered (and fixed it seems), and that while things weren't perfect, it's not a malicious activity and someone should read down the history of the thread and see what the result was. Otherwise, it is tempting to see the thread, and the title, and just assume too much.
No change is perfect, but I think fixing the title can do a lot to clarify it.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
I wish that we had had a chance to speak about your frustration prior to you posting this on a public forum. Creating a "Skyetel is a Scam" post seriously hurts us and I would have rather treated this as an opportunity to introduce you to our customer service team.
aka hidden it like your pricing.
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@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I'm not surprised by the port in charge, no. But I was surprised a month later to find it still on my account as a negative amount.
Okay, just verifying that I understood what you mean. If you look at the April bill, do the charges not appear there? My current charges like number porting show up there, even before the invoice comes out.
This is correct - if you click on the month and change it to the current month, you'll see all "Transactions" we made on your account (like Port In fees or Purchasing a Phone Number)
I saw it. I had no reason to click on it because I had nothing before March when I initiated the port request. I assumed it would not show April until after the month was over.
I see it shows all kinds of stuff.
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@JaredBusch cool, yeah that was confusing for me at first, too. Since there isn't an April invoice, I wasn't thinking anything would be there.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
That does not change all the quoted replies. I already stated as much.
I said I could change the title, but it will not do any good because of thThat is what it is, agreed that it doesn't change the quoted replies. But for someone coming to the thread and looking at the title as the source of "topic", I think that it will do a lot. It will make it clear that the issue was dug into, that "scam" is the wrong term, that there was something wrong that was discovered (and fixed it seems), and that while things weren't perfect, it's not a malicious activity and someone should read down the history of the thread and see what the result was. Otherwise, it is tempting to see the thread, and the title, and just assume too much.
No change is perfect, but I think fixing the title can do a lot to clarify it.
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
Well, more like hiding the fact that is clearly isn't a scam and you made a false statement.
I made a statement that was factual based on all the information I had at the time. I in no way made an intentionally false statement.
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
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@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.
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@scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:
@JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:
I will update the topic title at your request. I dislike doing so because of the implied financial pressure of an advertiser.
Actually you are going to get me in trouble, they aren't a paid advertiser and I was supposed to take down the ads, but I've been lazy.
Well then, I can strike that statement.
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@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
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@DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:
@Skyetel said in Skyetel is a scam:
FWIW - I (obviously) vote that we should change the title
You have no vote, this isn't SpiteWorks
!lol - Thank God!
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@scottalanmiller are we allowed to use their name on the forums or no?
I mean, I enjoy using SpiteWorks to call them out for the spiteful bastards they are, but still.
