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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
      last edited by

      @FATeknollogee said in Skyetel is a scam:

      Per google:

      scam
      /skam/
      nounINFORMAL
      1.
      a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
      "an insurance scam"
      synonyms:	fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick, diddle; More
      verb
      1.
      swindle.
      "a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
      

      I would have to disagree, but, that is just my opinion, ymmv.

      fraud.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

        @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

        To ask, does these numbers have a voicemail attached to them that might be answering? and if so, are they charging you for that?

        It is some default thing of theirs as I have not set up any kind of device or PBX to this account.

        It is simply holding the number at the moment.

        Calling the number you hear a very non typical system voice stating the number is not in service.

        I bet you they are charging you because "something is answering" and minutes are being tolled. That'll be their response. . guaranteed.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

          @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

          @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

          To ask, does these numbers have a voicemail attached to them that might be answering? and if so, are they charging you for that?

          It is some default thing of theirs as I have not set up any kind of device or PBX to this account.

          It is simply holding the number at the moment.

          Calling the number you hear a very non typical system voice stating the number is not in service.

          I bet you they are charging you because "something is answering" and minutes are being tolled. That'll be their response. . guaranteed.

          I realize that. I know how this works. But this is their problem for accepting the call to a number with no destination configured. they could simply reject calls like this too.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

            @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

            @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

            To ask, does these numbers have a voicemail attached to them that might be answering? and if so, are they charging you for that?

            It is some default thing of theirs as I have not set up any kind of device or PBX to this account.

            It is simply holding the number at the moment.

            Calling the number you hear a very non typical system voice stating the number is not in service.

            I bet you they are charging you because "something is answering" and minutes are being tolled. That'll be their response. . guaranteed.

            I realize that. I know how this works. But this is their problem for accepting the call to a number with no destination configured. they could simply reject calls like this too.

            They could, but it's more profitable for them to charge you and anyone else who would accept this. I'll tell em to pound sand and refute the charges.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

              @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

              @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

              @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

              @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

              To ask, does these numbers have a voicemail attached to them that might be answering? and if so, are they charging you for that?

              It is some default thing of theirs as I have not set up any kind of device or PBX to this account.

              It is simply holding the number at the moment.

              Calling the number you hear a very non typical system voice stating the number is not in service.

              I bet you they are charging you because "something is answering" and minutes are being tolled. That'll be their response. . guaranteed.

              I realize that. I know how this works. But this is their problem for accepting the call to a number with no destination configured. they could simply reject calls like this too.

              They could, but it's more profitable for them to charge you and anyone else who would accept this. I'll tell em to pound sand and refute the charges.

              I already did not like them because of their hidden true pricing.

              But their published pricing is not abnormal, so they were worth a try.

              But this is just theft. Also why is is -$10.11? Terminating those calls most certianly does not cost that much.

              Nothing configured in their system.
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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                So to the all important question @JaredBusch are you dumping Skyetel? (please say yes)

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                • RojoLocoR
                  RojoLoco
                  last edited by

                  But... but.... they advertise here! They must be legit, right?

                  (I'm assuming they still have ads here, I saw them for a moment before I went right click -> block element since the ads here are sneaky and designed to circumlocute ad blockers)

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @RojoLoco
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    @RojoLoco said in Skyetel is a scam:

                    But... but.... they advertise here! They must be legit, right?

                    (I'm assuming they still have ads here, I saw them for a moment before I went right click -> block element since the ads here are sneaky and designed to circumlocute ad blockers)

                    Yes, they jumped right into an advertising campaign here after the first conversations about them and their hidden pricing.

                    Somehow, @scottalanmiller claims it isn't hidden.

                    /me looks at ad. Yup. Somehow.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                        I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

                        Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                          I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

                          Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.

                          Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                            I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

                            Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.

                            Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .

                            974db4c5-6317-4b92-b88e-9821a30a5b94-image.png

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                              Somehow, @scottalanmiller claims it isn't hidden

                              Where did I claim that? I agree that I don't like hidden pricing. I said that the pricing was good if you talked to @Skyetel - not that it wasn't hidden.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

                                Yes, they aren't actually ads. Just images.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                  I haven't checked in a while from home (on a proper computer) but do the ads show up here when using PiHole?

                                  Yes, because they host them locally on ML itself.

                                  Never knew that, interesting and incredibly sneaky. . .

                                  Not sneaky at all. PiHole only blocks ad hosting services, not pictures. Using ad hosting services is sketchy, not having pictures.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                    Somehow, @scottalanmiller claims it isn't hidden

                                    Where did I claim that? I agree that I don't like hidden pricing. I said that the pricing was good if you talked to @Skyetel - not that it wasn't hidden.

                                    Then tell us about it. Because you also never posted any information on pricing in the previous threads.

                                    If they made you sign something not allowing that, then fuck this company.
                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/18265/voip-provider-skyetel/32

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch

                                      What do you have in this...

                                      Screenshot from 2019-04-29 14-41-28.png

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                        @JaredBusch

                                        What do you have in this...

                                        Screenshot from 2019-04-29 14-41-28.png

                                        That is a drop down menu. I see the same menu.

                                        Obviously, my CC is listed in payment methods and auto renew is disabled. Because I never let phone services auto-bill.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                          Obviously, my CC is listed in payment methods

                                          Can you share that screenshot? 🙂

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @JaredBusch said in Skyetel is a scam:

                                            If they made you sign something not allowing that, then fuck this company.

                                            Their cost is private, you can hate it as much as you want, but you have to ask the @Skyetel account for info on the pricing. It's hidden, I've always said it was hidden, but the pricing is good if you are willing to ask and if you didn't ask, then you are creating your own problems just to get to complain. The hidden pricing is what it is, but once you've been told it is hidden, which you have been several times, then complaints beyond that make no sense. You know the good pricing is open to you, you just have to talk to them, if you don't want to, don't, but it makes no sense to complain that you don't know the hidden prices just because you aren't willing to find out what it is.

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