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    • scottalanmiller
      scottalanmiller last edited by

      We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

      We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller last edited by

        Rodrigo says: "2019 KDC issues tgt ticket encrypted by AES while Windows XP expects to accept it in RC4 encryption . This happens despite the fact that Windows 2019 KDC server is already configured to support RC4 .Moreover , in the same network, in the same domain the joining process is succeeded against 2016 or 2012 r2 Domain controller.
        I suspect that this issue could affect all RC4-only clients like old linux machines that would like to join to 2019 AD"

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        • black3dynamite
          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

          We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

          We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

          Don’t you have to use 2008r2 functional domain and need to use smb 1.0?

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite last edited by

            @black3dynamite said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

            We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

            We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

            Don’t you have to use 2008r2 functional domain and need to use smb 1.0?

            No, they can join 2016. And SMB level is unrelated to the forest.

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            • dbeato
              dbeato @scottalanmiller last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

              We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

              We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

              So what is the error?

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @dbeato last edited by

                @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                So what is the error?

                LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

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                • dbeato
                  dbeato @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                  We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                  We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                  So what is the error?

                  LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                  Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @dbeato last edited by

                    @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                    We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                    We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                    So what is the error?

                    LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                    Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                    Correct. 2016 yes, 2019 no.

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                    • JaredBusch
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                      We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                      We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                      So what is the error?

                      LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                      Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                      Correct. 2016 yes, 2019 no.

                      Functional levels and server versions are different things please be specific wtf you are talking about.

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                      • JaredBusch
                        JaredBusch @dbeato last edited by

                        @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                        @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                        We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                        We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                        So what is the error?

                        LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                        Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                        At what functional level FFS

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                        • gjacobse
                          gjacobse last edited by

                          I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                          WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                          But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                          Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                            We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                            We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                            So what is the error?

                            LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                            Gotcha, but Windows XP works with Server 2016 for sure.

                            At what functional level FFS

                            Even 2016 functional level I'm pretty sure.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @gjacobse last edited by

                              @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                              I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                              WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                              But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                              Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                              $100K update fee.

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                              • black3dynamite
                                black3dynamite @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                $100K update fee.

                                Wouldn’t that price keep increasing over time?

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                                • scottalanmiller
                                  scottalanmiller @black3dynamite last edited by

                                  @black3dynamite said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                  @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                  I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                  WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                  But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                  Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                  $100K update fee.

                                  Wouldn’t that price keep increasing over time?

                                  I expect so. But maybe not, I think it might just be a flat upgrade fee to a new OS.

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                                  • JaredBusch
                                    JaredBusch last edited by

                                    I assumed it was XP because "embedded" on some system.

                                    This is a very common scenario.

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                      I assumed it was XP because "embedded" on some system.

                                      This is a very common scenario.

                                      yeah, pre-press machines.

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                                      • EddieJennings
                                        EddieJennings @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                        We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                                        We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                                        So what is the error?

                                        LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                                        Saw that with Server 2003. Issue (despite earlier thread posts) was caused by us turning off SMBv1

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                                        • Dashrender
                                          Dashrender @EddieJennings last edited by

                                          @EddieJennings said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          @dbeato said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                          We have a new 2016 functional level domain. We have two Windows XP clients that need to join it. They are getting this error: ""

                                          We are guessing that it is a functional level mismatch. Anyone know what is needed to do a join?

                                          So what is the error?

                                          LOL, I tried to grab it and couldn't. Something about the DC no longer being available.

                                          Saw that with Server 2003. Issue (despite earlier thread posts) was caused by us turning off SMBv1

                                          Yeah - I've definitely seen SMBv1 disabled cause issues for older OS's, though can't be certain it was for authentication against AD.

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                                          • DustinB3403
                                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                            @gjacobse said in Need to Join Windows XP Clients to a 2016 Domain:

                                            I have been waiting for someone to ask the obvious...

                                            WHY are you still using Windows XP??? Like... wow that is old.

                                            But really - if it's what they have - it's what has to be used.

                                            Are there any other computer OS Versions (Win 7, Win 10) - do they join okay?

                                            $100K update fee.

                                            That update fee should be seen as a cost of business to ensure the business isn't being put at risk.

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