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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

      Sorry, the dirt farmers are always going to get screwed, it's just life. (though I don't really consider it getting screwed - FYI).

      Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

      I get that there are possible better alternatives to DD-WRT but your stance here is, pay for something better or pound sand.

      So pay for Windows or pound sand @Dashrender, obviously it's superior.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

        Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

        yep - that's exactly what I said. Yep, Exactly.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

          @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

          Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

          yep - that's exactly what I said. Yep, Exactly.

          Because we all know @DustinB3403 is a super awesome font of super awesome knowledge.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

            @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

            Sorry, the dirt farmers are always going to get screwed, it's just life. (though I don't really consider it getting screwed - FYI).

            Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

            I get that there are possible better alternatives to DD-WRT but your stance here is, pay for something better or pound sand.

            So pay for Windows or pound sand @Dashrender, obviously it's superior.

            Let's return to my original comment

            @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

            @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

            DD-WRT was so popular. Can't believe it has gone silent.

            Why not? When you can get something like the ER-X or ER-L, why bother with a hack.

            I'm speaking about why it's gone silent - well, why do you think DD-WRT has gone silent - let's drop all the crap about poor people in india and return to my comment - the reason the project went silent.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in DD-WRT:

              @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

              @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

              Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

              yep - that's exactly what I said. Yep, Exactly.

              Because we all know @DustinB3403 is a super awesome font of super awesome knowledge.

              I am a super awesome font.

              https://origin.fontawesome.com/

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                Sorry, the dirt farmers are always going to get screwed, it's just life. (though I don't really consider it getting screwed - FYI).

                Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

                I get that there are possible better alternatives to DD-WRT but your stance here is, pay for something better or pound sand.

                So pay for Windows or pound sand @Dashrender, obviously it's superior.

                Let's return to my original comment

                @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                DD-WRT was so popular. Can't believe it has gone silent.

                Why not? When you can get something like the ER-X or ER-L, why bother with a hack.

                I'm speaking about why it's gone silent - well, why do you think DD-WRT has gone silent - let's drop all the crap about poor people in india and return to my comment - the reason the project went silent.

                Maybe the lead developers got hit by a bus.

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                  bnrstnr @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                  Yes - that's what we're talking about here - a $1600 laptop or $1600 anything.
                  Keep apples to apples and leave oranges out this.
                  The shit routers that ran DD-WRT were $50+ in the US... same damned cost as a ER-X today.
                  hell, it's pretty damned hard to find a $50 router at Best Buy today (I won't say impossible, but I don't recall but maybe one open the last time I was there).

                  ER-X doesn't get you any WIFI. For $128 (MSRP) you can get an ER-X ($59) and a Unifi AP ($69 Wireless-N model).

                  At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                    @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                    @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                    @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                    Sorry, the dirt farmers are always going to get screwed, it's just life. (though I don't really consider it getting screwed - FYI).

                    Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

                    I get that there are possible better alternatives to DD-WRT but your stance here is, pay for something better or pound sand.

                    So pay for Windows or pound sand @Dashrender, obviously it's superior.

                    Let's return to my original comment

                    @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                    @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                    DD-WRT was so popular. Can't believe it has gone silent.

                    Why not? When you can get something like the ER-X or ER-L, why bother with a hack.

                    I'm speaking about why it's gone silent - well, why do you think DD-WRT has gone silent - let's drop all the crap about poor people in india and return to my comment - the reason the project went silent.

                    Maybe the lead developers got hit by a bus.

                    Yep - that would/could be another reason. No more/less valid that my comment.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @bnrstnr
                      last edited by

                      @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                      @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                      Yes - that's what we're talking about here - a $1600 laptop or $1600 anything.
                      Keep apples to apples and leave oranges out this.
                      The shit routers that ran DD-WRT were $50+ in the US... same damned cost as a ER-X today.
                      hell, it's pretty damned hard to find a $50 router at Best Buy today (I won't say impossible, but I don't recall but maybe one open the last time I was there).

                      ER-X doesn't get you any WIFI. For $128 (MSRP) you can get an ER-X ($59) and a Unifi AP ($69 Wireless-N model).

                      At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                      Well, there go. I suppose that's definitely possible - but if that was being widely use - it's odd that DD-WRT fell silent - unless as Dustin said - the dev died or just got bored, etc, etc, etc.

                      though - most would tell you around these parts - you shouldn't be mixing these components into a single box, but that's another thread.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
                        last edited by

                        @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                        At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                        Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                          @JaredBusch said in DD-WRT:

                          @Dashrender said in DD-WRT:

                          @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                          Everyone who uses Linux is a dirt farmer in your mind then?

                          yep - that's exactly what I said. Yep, Exactly.

                          Because we all know @DustinB3403 is a super awesome font of super awesome knowledge.

                          I am a super awesome font.

                          https://origin.fontawesome.com/

                          Nice try dumbass, but I used the correct word. fount and font, are both valid uses.

                          https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/font
                          https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fount
                          https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2013/08/14/poll-results/

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                            @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                            At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                            Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                            Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                              @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                              @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                              At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                              Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                              Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

                              I've implied nothing of the kind. I'm providing a use case for non-power users in the third world.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by DustinB3403

                                @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                                At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                                Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                                Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

                                I've implied nothing of the kind. I'm providing a use case for non-power users in the third world.

                                I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded and not DD-WRT (since that seems like what you meant to imply)?

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                                  bnrstnr @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                  I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded?

                                  I don't understand what he means either. I would argue that DD-WRT was solely created for power users (third-world, first, wherever) stuck (for whatever reason) with cheap consumer gear.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                    @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                                    At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                                    Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                                    Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

                                    I've implied nothing of the kind. I'm providing a use case for non-power users in the third world.

                                    I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded?

                                    That's what they all use. BUT if they needed something more stable, there is DD-WRT.

                                    Power Users and DD-WRT don't really go together anywhere. It's a hobbiest, not a power user, tool. It's for people who want some features, or stability, for crap products on an extreme budget.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
                                      last edited by

                                      @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                      I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded?

                                      I don't understand what he means either. I would argue that DD-WRT was solely created for power users (third-world, first, wherever) stuck (for whatever reason) with cheap consumer gear.

                                      I'd argue that it's "anti-power user". That's my underlying point. If you start with DD-WRT not being for power users, then the rest of it is obvious and common sense. I'm not sure what more explanation is needed.

                                      If you believe it is for power users, and don't understand that I don't, then I can see why you feel my position doesn't make sense.

                                      Bottom line... I see DD-WRT as a toy for people to play with. Nothing wrong with that, not at all a power user tool.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Think Raspberry Pi. Is it fun? Yes. Is it cool? Yes. Is it useful? Yes. Is it for power users? Hell no.

                                        Hobbiest and power user are not closely related things.

                                        Raspberry Pi is not "prosumer". It's just super low cost.

                                        Same here, if you need to be crazy cheap, fine, nothing wrong with having very little money. But using hobby stuff on a budget doesn't make you a power user, it makes you a hobbiest on a budget.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                          @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                                          At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                                          Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                                          Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

                                          I've implied nothing of the kind. I'm providing a use case for non-power users in the third world.

                                          I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded?

                                          That's what they all use. BUT if they needed something more stable, there is DD-WRT.

                                          Power Users and DD-WRT don't really go together anywhere. It's a hobbiest, not a power user, tool. It's for people who want some features, or stability, for crap products on an extreme budget.

                                          You just said DD-WRT is both more stable and for hobbiest and not power users. But they may need features that they can't get with the consumer crap that comes pre-loaded.

                                          You're going in circles. Is DD-WRT hobbiest, power user or non of the above and why?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in DD-WRT:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in DD-WRT:

                                            @bnrstnr said in DD-WRT:

                                            At BestBuy you can get a TP-Link Wireless-AC router that's been tested to work with DD-WRT for $39.99. I would say it's still very much relevant to power user types on a budget.

                                            Budget, yes. especially in the third world. power users? I don't know if I would go that far.

                                            Are you saying there are few if any power users in the third world, and the few that do exist use something else?

                                            I've implied nothing of the kind. I'm providing a use case for non-power users in the third world.

                                            I'm genuinely trying to determine what you mean. What are third-world non-power users using if not the crap that comes pre-loaded?

                                            That's what they all use. BUT if they needed something more stable, there is DD-WRT.

                                            Power Users and DD-WRT don't really go together anywhere. It's a hobbiest, not a power user, tool. It's for people who want some features, or stability, for crap products on an extreme budget.

                                            You just said DD-WRT is both more stable and for hobbiest and not power users. But they may need features that they can't get with the consumer crap that comes pre-loaded.

                                            Power Users simply don't exist on that kind of budget. If you are that constrained, you simply don't have power user or business class options. It's that simple.

                                            Business doesn't have a "but we can't afford to do business" tier, that's not how business works.

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