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    • WrCombs
      WrCombs last edited by

      just came across this article:

      https://www.ketv.com/article/my-blood-ran-cold-couple-says-they-were-watched-threatened-through-smart-security-cameras/26102165

      Not local to me, but to some people here I'm sure.

      How do you feel about this?

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      • M
        murpheous last edited by

        They weren't "hacked"

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        • WrCombs
          WrCombs @murpheous last edited by

          @murpheous said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

          They weren't "hacked"

          Someone gained remote access to their security systems and camera's is that not definition of " hacked"

          Hack: To use a computer to gain unauthorized access to data in a system.

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          • coliver
            coliver last edited by

            Arjun Sud is now aware that using complex passwords and adding two-factor authentication can reduce security risks, but had not known about the option before.

            I'll just leave this here.

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            • WrCombs
              WrCombs @coliver last edited by

              @coliver I saw that too ; I didnt say it wasnt "their fault"

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @murpheous last edited by

                @murpheous said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                They weren't "hacked"

                They were, but they were idiots who invited being "hacked". It's just a simple guessing of their passwords. Nest is at no fault here, the end users are completely at fault. Nothing to be afraid of. Stupid people are stupid people.

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                • WrCombs
                  WrCombs @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  @murpheous said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                  They weren't "hacked"

                  They were, but they were idiots who invited being "hacked". It's just a simple guessing of their passwords. Nest is at no fault here, the end users are completely at fault. Nothing to be afraid of. Stupid people are stupid people.

                  it wasnt an impressive hack, that's for sure.

                  As for Nest not being at fault here, I would agree that they aren't at fault.
                  If you use a basic password/ no 2fa and do nothing to protect your equipment Its your own damn fault.
                  Thought it was funny and good point because I know a few people the I could see this happening too, cause they don't listen.

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                  • DustinB3403
                    DustinB3403 last edited by

                    Technically speaking the person who "hacked" into this system can still be brought up on charges of "hacking". Regardless of the insecure passwords and failure to use 2FA.

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                    • WrCombs
                      WrCombs @DustinB3403 last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                      Technically speaking the person who "hacked" into this system can still be brought up on charges of "hacking". Regardless of the insecure passwords and failure to use 2FA.

                      Im not very hype on the laws of hacking. But that doesnt surprise, at the very least they were maliciously taking over someone elses property. That's technically theft (?)

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                      • Dashrender
                        Dashrender last edited by

                        The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

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                        • DustinB3403
                          DustinB3403 @WrCombs last edited by DustinB3403

                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                          @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                          Technically speaking the person who "hacked" into this system can still be brought up on charges of "hacking". Regardless of the insecure passwords and failure to use 2FA.

                          Im not very hype on the laws of hacking. But that doesnt surprise, at the very least they were maliciously taking over someone elses property. That's technically theft (?)

                          No it's illegal hacking. Plain and simple.

                          "You aren't allow in here, because you broke in".

                          The same thing applies in this example.

                          "I leave my house unlocked and the doors open while I'm gone for the day, someone comes in and steals all of my stuff".

                          Am I at fault? Sure somewhat for not using deterrents to prevent theft (locking my doors), but it's still illegal to enter someones property without consent and steal their stuff.

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                          • coliver
                            coliver @Dashrender last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                            The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                            Is that possible with Nest?

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                            • Dashrender
                              Dashrender @coliver last edited by

                              @coliver said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                              @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                              The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                              Is that possible with Nest?

                              With nest I don’t know with others absolutely

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                              • WrCombs
                                WrCombs @Dashrender last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

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                                • DustinB3403
                                  DustinB3403 last edited by

                                  How you get in doesn't matter, since you legally aren't welcome there.

                                  You aren't welcome in my house, you aren't welcome to watch my security cameras.

                                  It's B and E at a minimum via hacking.

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                                  • WrCombs
                                    WrCombs @DustinB3403 last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                    How you get in doesn't matter, since you legally aren't welcome there.

                                    You aren't welcome in my house, you aren't welcome to watch my security cameras.

                                    It's B and E at a minimum via hacking.

                                    That's completely understandable.

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                                    • Dashrender
                                      Dashrender @WrCombs last edited by

                                      @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                      The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                      So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                      (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                      Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

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                                      • WrCombs
                                        WrCombs @Dashrender last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                        The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                        So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                        (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                        Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                        but for why?

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                                        • DustinB3403
                                          DustinB3403 @WrCombs last edited by

                                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                          The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                          So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                          (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                          Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                          but for why?

                                          Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                                          Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

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                                          • WrCombs
                                            WrCombs @DustinB3403 last edited by WrCombs

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @WrCombs said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            @Dashrender said in Couples Nest Security Hacked:

                                            The homeowner could have also had UPNP enabled in their firewall allowing the hackers to gain direct access

                                            So you're saying that potentially their router had UPnP enabled and from there opened the port to the camera\security system?

                                            (sorry for the noob-ish question, Never heard of that until google told me what it was.)

                                            Yep tons of shitty consumer stuff does that

                                            but for why?

                                            Because they are there to sell shitty consumer cameras "accessible from anywhere in the world".

                                            Via an RTSP feed directly from the device. . .

                                            which also means that anyone with half a brain incyber security can get into your cameras just as well. ...

                                            Edit
                                            that's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

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