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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore
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      Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
      I'm of the mind to just never move files.
      Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
      Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

        Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?

        No

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @jmoore
          last edited by

          @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

          Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
          I'm of the mind to just never move files.
          Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
          Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

          Yeah I don't get it either

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

            @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

            Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
            I'm of the mind to just never move files.
            Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
            Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

            Yeah I don't get it either

            Well - it would be awesome to get away from folders altogether, and only use tags.. so much more useful, though painful to add to every time you create a document.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

              @wirestyle22 said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

              @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

              Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
              I'm of the mind to just never move files.
              Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
              Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

              Yeah I don't get it either

              Well - it would be awesome to get away from folders altogether, and only use tags.. so much more useful, though painful to add to every time you create a document.

              Not really, no more painful than selecting a folder every time you create a document, which you already have to do. In fact, technically, folders ARE a tag, just a really crappy and limited one. But under the hood, it's a really crufty single tag system in most filesystems. Hard links could be thought of as an insanely cumbersome additional tag system.

              Tags only improve things. All positives, no negatives.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                @wirestyle22 said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
                I'm of the mind to just never move files.
                Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
                Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

                Yeah I don't get it either

                Well - it would be awesome to get away from folders altogether, and only use tags.. so much more useful, though painful to add to every time you create a document.

                Not really, no more painful than selecting a folder every time you create a document, which you already have to do. In fact, technically, folders ARE a tag, just a really crappy and limited one. But under the hood, it's a really crufty single tag system in most filesystems. Hard links could be thought of as an insanely cumbersome additional tag system.

                Tags only improve things. All positives, no negatives.

                I'll disagree in so much as a folder system is likely already created and a user is just using it. Sure the same could be said for many tags - but tags don't lend themselves to easy discovery like folders do. It's a human aspect, not a computer one...

                I definitely agree that the folders are a single tag like solution - but when you have a single folder with 10K files in it, it's mind numbing to look at - a way that many people function... I know they need to change, and over time most will, but the interim will be painful.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                  @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                  @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                  @wirestyle22 said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                  @jmoore said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                  Do we know why his users are constantly moving files?
                  I'm of the mind to just never move files.
                  Open file, edit file, close the file. No problems.
                  Just don't move the file. Who doesn't understand that this would cause many problems?

                  Yeah I don't get it either

                  Well - it would be awesome to get away from folders altogether, and only use tags.. so much more useful, though painful to add to every time you create a document.

                  Not really, no more painful than selecting a folder every time you create a document, which you already have to do. In fact, technically, folders ARE a tag, just a really crappy and limited one. But under the hood, it's a really crufty single tag system in most filesystems. Hard links could be thought of as an insanely cumbersome additional tag system.

                  Tags only improve things. All positives, no negatives.

                  I'll disagree in so much as a folder system is likely already created and a user is just using it. Sure the same could be said for many tags - but tags don't lend themselves to easy discovery like folders do. It's a human aspect, not a computer one...

                  They do, and folders prove that as folders in most filesystems are just tags. If it is easy to do with a folder, it's just as easy to do with a tag. But better, as there are more options to make it even easier.

                  That people "already know how to do something" doesn't make it easier, nor does that mean that that system couldn't be used as a tagging mechanism.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                    I definitely agree that the folders are a single tag like solution - but when you have a single folder with 10K files in it, it's mind numbing to look at - a way that many people function... I know they need to change, and over time most will, but the interim will be painful.

                    Right, so don't use folders, use tags! THere is no interim "dumping ground" solution.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                      @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                      I definitely agree that the folders are a single tag like solution - but when you have a single folder with 10K files in it, it's mind numbing to look at - a way that many people function... I know they need to change, and over time most will, but the interim will be painful.

                      Right, so don't use folders, use tags! THere is no interim "dumping ground" solution.

                      The interim is the time of people whining that they have to type in tags because folders has been disallowed.

                      Question - Does windows allow the use of Tags? I know MS Office can - though I have no clue how those tags integrate into the Windows Search features.

                      But something like notepad - can you tag those txt files?

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                      • DonahueD
                        Donahue
                        last edited by

                        I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                          @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                          @Dashrender said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                          I definitely agree that the folders are a single tag like solution - but when you have a single folder with 10K files in it, it's mind numbing to look at - a way that many people function... I know they need to change, and over time most will, but the interim will be painful.

                          Right, so don't use folders, use tags! THere is no interim "dumping ground" solution.

                          The interim is the time of people whining that they have to type in tags because folders has been disallowed.

                          Question - Does windows allow the use of Tags? I know MS Office can - though I have no clue how those tags integrate into the Windows Search features.

                          But something like notepad - can you tag those txt files?

                          Windows doesn't stop it. But it doesn't support it, either. Windows does provide full tagging in the form of Sharepoint. That's Microsoft's tagging storage feature.

                          If you explicitely use Windows' non-tagged storage mechanism, then there are no tags.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Donahue
                            last edited by

                            @Donahue said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                            I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

                            NC supports tags and works on Windows, yes. Microsoft Sharepoint does this as well (this is where NC copied it from.)

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @Donahue
                              last edited by black3dynamite

                              @Donahue said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                              I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

                              You add tags on files. Right-click on the file and select properties. Select the Details tab. There you will see a Tags under Description.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                @Donahue said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

                                You add tags on files. Right-click on the file and select properties. Select the Detail tab. There you will see a Tags under Description.

                                What? No way, when was that added? Freaking sweet.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Of interest... TagSpaces

                                  https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/tag-youre-manage-files-linux-tagspaces/

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                    @black3dynamite said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                    @Donahue said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                    I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

                                    You add tags on files. Right-click on the file and select properties. Select the Detail tab. There you will see a Tags under Description.

                                    What? No way, when was that added? Freaking sweet.

                                    I have no idea.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite
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                                      Using tags in Windows.
                                      https://www.maketecheasier.com/tag-files-in-windows/

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                                      • DonahueD
                                        Donahue
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                                        mindblown

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                          @black3dynamite said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                          @Donahue said in I have to change cloud drive service yet again:

                                          I would like to know too. Is there a way to incorporate tags into a windows environment? Perhaps with something like NC?

                                          You add tags on files. Right-click on the file and select properties. Select the Detail tab. There you will see a Tags under Description.

                                          What? No way, when was that added? Freaking sweet.

                                          Windows 8.1 IIRC.

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                                          • DonahueD
                                            Donahue
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                                            check the link, its at least as old as windows 7

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