Mobile Back up?
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@nerdydad said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@aaronstuder said in Mobile Back up?:
Nextcloud
can you elaborate?
Have a Nextcloud instance somewhere. Download the Nextcloud app to your phone and sign in. Setup the app to automatically backup your photos and other items to your Nextcloud instance. You lose your phone or it dies? No problem.
Fair enough, I didnt know if there was a configuration to it, or What nextcloud really was, granted I couldn't have looked it up.
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@nerdydad said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@aaronstuder said in Mobile Back up?:
Nextcloud
can you elaborate?
Have a Nextcloud instance somewhere. Download the Nextcloud app to your phone and sign in. Setup the app to automatically backup your photos and other items to your Nextcloud instance. You lose your phone or it dies? No problem.
This is what I do.
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@wrcombs Google Photos is excellent as well, free and supports Android and iOS
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@wrcombs I use "UpThere" from Western Digital. It's a dollar or 2 a month(I'd rather pay than give google more of my info) plus nice gui for the wife when she looks at and downloads pictures from her laptop. It syncs pics and video from my phone whenever I am on wifi.
Nextcloud is certainly nice and works well but you can have UpThere running in 2 min or less
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@jmoore You trust WD more then Google?
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@aaronstuder I do. Admittedly I guess its because I have not heard of all the things they do like Google does with your info. I hope they do not but who knows.
I know with google and any other free service I am the product. I don't know if its true but I hope if I pay for a service my information is a little more private. So I tend to do this as much as possible. I prefer to pay for as much as I can to mitigate that.
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What about the backup of the nextcloud instance?
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@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
What about the backup of the nextcloud instance?
That backup of the backup would be a completely different question.
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@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
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But you could do something as simple as syncing do a desktop or VM somewhere, if you wanted.
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@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
What about the backup of the nextcloud instance?
You could back up your NextCloud to an external Storage instance like Amazon S3 or Wasabi (this one seems to be a good deal at the moment -- $5 / TB /month).
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@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Isn't the whole Idea behind Nextcloud is to be used as a back up of the primary storage for devices? I haven't looked into this enough to tell you one way or the other as to how I would back up the back up, Probably would take @scottalanmiller 's advice and back it up to a VM . . .
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@scottalanmiller said in Mobile Back up?:
@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
What about the backup of the nextcloud instance?
That backup of the backup would be a completely different question.
What makes NextCloud a backup?
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@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Isn't the whole Idea behind Nextcloud is to be used as a back up of the primary storage for devices?
Hardly. That's the same as saying "isn't a mapped drive a backup"? No, it's just a form of storage. Nothing is a backup, if it is the original.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Isn't the whole Idea behind Nextcloud is to be used as a back up of the primary storage for devices?
Hardly. That's the same as saying "isn't a mapped drive a backup"? No, it's just a form of storage. Nothing is a backup, if it is the original.
Fair enough, I confused the 2 ( Storage and Back up)
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@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Would you share your Script in a write up on backing up Instances of NextCloud for those who would like to learn more?
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@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Would you share your Script in a write up on backing up Instances of NextCloud for those who would like to learn more?
Worth noting that you don't need that much to protect the data. Like if you had photos, you don't need the DB to recovery them. The DB contains the metadata, not the files themselves. If you want to recreate your NextCloud instance, you need the DB. If you only want the pictures protected, you don't.
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Something very simple:
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@scottalanmiller said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs said in Mobile Back up?:
@francesco-provino said in Mobile Back up?:
@wrcombs If you move the primary storage to the nextcloud instance, this is not backup anymore. How do you effectively backup the nextcloud instance? I use a script I made with borg that stops the service, dump the db etc.
Would you share your Script in a write up on backing up Instances of NextCloud for those who would like to learn more?
Worth noting that you don't need that much to protect the data. Like if you had photos, you don't need the DB to recovery them. The DB contains the metadata, not the files themselves. If you want to recreate your NextCloud instance, you need the DB. If you only want the pictures protected, you don't.
This is true, but I use nextcloud to share many things with my family etc, so it’s very practical to have the possibility to restore the db also.
