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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

      @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

      @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

      In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
      Would that be a concern?

      It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

      My bad, I was over-thinking.
      Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

      As would replication.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

        @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

        @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

        @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

        In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
        Would that be a concern?

        It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

        My bad, I was over-thinking.
        Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

        As would replication.

        Just edited my op.
        Must have a gui.
        Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

          @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

          @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

          In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
          Would that be a concern?

          It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

          My bad, I was over-thinking.
          Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

          As would replication.

          Just edited my op.
          Must have a gui.
          Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

          So the goal or end-game here is to have backups located off-site for DR purposes? Tape works well for that, using any regular GUI backup software.

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          • FATeknollogeeF
            FATeknollogee @Obsolesce
            last edited by

            @obsolesce said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

            So the goal or end-game here is to have backups located off-site for DR purposes? Tape works well for that, using any regular GUI backup software.

            Yes, kind of.
            Tape is not an option, 'coz I don't have tape.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
              last edited by Obsolesce

              Hyper-V Replication is hardware redundancy, if a time comes in which your server dies, and you cannot get it back up again in a reasonable amount of time, and the 30 seconds to 15 minutes of data loss is worth it.

              It's also very helpful for planned failovers, so you can do maintenance on the host without downtime.

              If you want to replicate backups off-site for DR purposes, and you don't really have any options...

              I woudl probably set up a Fedora NFS server VM in Site B, then use ReaR on the servers you want to back up, using that NFS server in Site B to back up to.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by

                If you need a GUI, than you need to buy something, or use Veeam linux agent free to some storage repository in Site B.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                  @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                  @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                  In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
                  Would that be a concern?

                  It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

                  My bad, I was over-thinking.
                  Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

                  As would replication.

                  Just edited my op.
                  Must have a gui.
                  Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

                  Why would you need a GUI? Replication is a background task. What would the GUI even do?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                    last edited by

                    @obsolesce said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                    If you need a GUI, than you need to buy something, or use Veeam linux agent free to some storage repository in Site B.

                    That lacks the replication, though.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                      last edited by

                      @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                      @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                      @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                      In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
                      Would that be a concern?

                      It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

                      My bad, I was over-thinking.
                      Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

                      As would replication.

                      Just edited my op.
                      Must have a gui.
                      Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

                      Here you go, a GOOD tool, WITH a GUI. Of course, it should go without saying, the GUI is just bad and there is zero reason to use it. It only takes a good tool and makes it less good. But if that's your requirement...

                      https://www.unixmen.com/grsync-gadmin-rsync-graphical-front-end-applications-rsync-tool/

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                        In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
                        Would that be a concern?

                        It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

                        My bad, I was over-thinking.
                        Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

                        As would replication.

                        Just edited my op.
                        Must have a gui.
                        Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

                        Here you go, a GOOD tool, WITH a GUI. Of course, it should go without saying, the GUI is just bad and there is zero reason to use it. It only takes a good tool and makes it less good. But if that's your requirement...

                        https://www.unixmen.com/grsync-gadmin-rsync-graphical-front-end-applications-rsync-tool/

                        Thank you.
                        How about a GREAT tool without a GUI?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                          In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
                          Would that be a concern?

                          It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

                          My bad, I was over-thinking.
                          Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

                          As would replication.

                          Just edited my op.
                          Must have a gui.
                          Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

                          Here you go, a GOOD tool, WITH a GUI. Of course, it should go without saying, the GUI is just bad and there is zero reason to use it. It only takes a good tool and makes it less good. But if that's your requirement...

                          https://www.unixmen.com/grsync-gadmin-rsync-graphical-front-end-applications-rsync-tool/

                          Thank you.
                          How about a GREAT tool without a GUI?

                          rsync

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by scottalanmiller

                            @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            @fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                            In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
                            Would that be a concern?

                            It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.

                            My bad, I was over-thinking.
                            Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.

                            As would replication.

                            Just edited my op.
                            Must have a gui.
                            Pls point me to the solution since Hyper-V doesn't qualify.

                            Here you go, a GOOD tool, WITH a GUI. Of course, it should go without saying, the GUI is just bad and there is zero reason to use it. It only takes a good tool and makes it less good. But if that's your requirement...

                            https://www.unixmen.com/grsync-gadmin-rsync-graphical-front-end-applications-rsync-tool/

                            Thank you.
                            How about a GREAT tool without a GUI?

                            GUI = not great tool

                            Just don't use the GUI.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              Why the GUI requirement? Having that rules out the BEST ways to do what you want to do?

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                              • PhlipElderP
                                PhlipElder
                                last edited by

                                Hyper-V Replica would work in this situation with a few caveats.

                                There is a 15 second limit on replication cycles. If the VMs are running database/active services this could be a problem.

                                Site link would be key relative to the amount of data changing on those VMs.

                                If Site A gets flattened then spooling the VMs up at Site B may require some tweaks if Site-to-Site VPN was being used and thus different subnets.

                                Then there's the need to either shift WAN IP(s) to Site B or flip DNS.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
                                  last edited by

                                  @phlipelder said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                  Hyper-V Replica would work in this situation with a few caveats.

                                  There is a 15 second limit on replication cycles. If the VMs are running database/active services this could be a problem.

                                  That would be handled earlier in the process by the backup job. If the backup is good, the replication won't cause an issue. If the backup is bad, the replication can't fix it, of course, but will replicate the bad backup. But the only place that this can be addressed is in the backup step, the replication is of backup files, so not at a point in the process where it matters.

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                                  • PhlipElderP
                                    PhlipElder @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                    @phlipelder said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                    Hyper-V Replica would work in this situation with a few caveats.

                                    There is a 15 second limit on replication cycles. If the VMs are running database/active services this could be a problem.

                                    That would be handled earlier in the process by the backup job. If the backup is good, the replication won't cause an issue. If the backup is bad, the replication can't fix it, of course, but will replicate the bad backup. But the only place that this can be addressed is in the backup step, the replication is of backup files, so not at a point in the process where it matters.

                                    "Garbage in garbage out" never seems to go away. It's been the bane of our existence since the switch to image/block based backups. :S

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @PhlipElder
                                      last edited by

                                      @phlipelder said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                      @phlipelder said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:

                                      Hyper-V Replica would work in this situation with a few caveats.

                                      There is a 15 second limit on replication cycles. If the VMs are running database/active services this could be a problem.

                                      That would be handled earlier in the process by the backup job. If the backup is good, the replication won't cause an issue. If the backup is bad, the replication can't fix it, of course, but will replicate the bad backup. But the only place that this can be addressed is in the backup step, the replication is of backup files, so not at a point in the process where it matters.

                                      "Garbage in garbage out" never seems to go away. It's been the bane of our existence since the switch to image/block based backups. :S

                                      File backups suffered from this, too. Databases are just hard to back up.

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