Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?
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Hi there,
We have been switched to O365 two years ago, and not utilizing 1TB space on OneDrive.
I would like to know if someone is using OneDrive for Business 1TB to backup the data or whole windows system ? and how you people are doing it?
As of now we don't have backup setup for workstation, but I wish to utilize free resources like Veeam endpoint free and OneDrive 1TB space to backup critical users to make my life easier.
Note: Earlier I have tried to setup desktop software of OneDrive to share files from app instead of going to Web OneDrive, for some reason desktop app not working well.
I would be great, if file version on OneDrive can help in virus infection etc. in case of recovery.
Appreciate your help!
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You can use Veeam Endpoint, but it does require a license to backup to ODfB. That is more of a premium feature. Otherwise, you're tied to some type of local storage, whether on your network or to your PC.
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Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
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@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
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@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
Protects against ransomware and loss of data if the laptop is lost/stolen from a road warrior. Granted, you are probably going to say that the documents should be stored in the server and backed up from there, but users don't always think in protecting company data. And getting them to is more of a management task than it is a SysAdmin task.
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@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
Protects against ransomware and loss of data if the laptop is lost/stolen from a road warrior. Granted, you are probably going to say that the documents should be stored in the server and backed up from there, but users don't always think in protecting company data. And getting them to is more of a management task than it is a SysAdmin task.
How? The laptop itself is worthless data. Just install the OS again.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
Protects against ransomware and loss of data if the laptop is lost/stolen from a road warrior. Granted, you are probably going to say that the documents should be stored in the server and backed up from there, but users don't always think in protecting company data. And getting them to is more of a management task than it is a SysAdmin task.
How? The laptop itself is worthless data. Just install the OS again.
It should be, but often times, users will store valuable data on the laptop when they should be storing it on more preferred storage. Then, something happens and they expect IT to work miracles, such as reading the platters or something because they heard that it could be done.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
Protects against ransomware and loss of data if the laptop is lost/stolen from a road warrior. Granted, you are probably going to say that the documents should be stored in the server and backed up from there, but users don't always think in protecting company data. And getting them to is more of a management task than it is a SysAdmin task.
How? The laptop itself is worthless data. Just install the OS again.
I've witnessed many times of data being stored directly on the
C:\or inC:\Users\Public
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@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Sure, map it to the local folder that is being synced with ODfB. I'll have to try that real quick.
Scratch this idea, unless you do a file-level backup. The only problem with file-level recovery is that you will not be able to recover the laptop if something was to happen. You will only have the files and not the OS. But, if you're just backing up the files, then you might as well take out Veeam Agent altogether and put the files on ODfB as is. Plus, Veeam Agent barks at the idea of backing up the system to its own drive, even though it is synced off-disk.
Who needs to back up a whole laptop? That seems silly.
Protects against ransomware and loss of data if the laptop is lost/stolen from a road warrior. Granted, you are probably going to say that the documents should be stored in the server and backed up from there, but users don't always think in protecting company data. And getting them to is more of a management task than it is a SysAdmin task.
How? The laptop itself is worthless data. Just install the OS again.
It should be, but often times, users will store valuable data on the laptop when they should be storing it on more preferred storage. Then, something happens and they expect IT to work miracles, such as reading the platters or something because they heard that it could be done.
Then best tht they lose it. At some point, intentionally throwing away data should not be accomodated.
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I don't back up client systems except for my own. My users' documents folder is redirected to a file server share where it is shadow copied 3 times a day and also backed up with Veeam every night.
Everyone is told repeatedly, by me, if it is important to the company, it goes in their documents folder or another shared folder on the server.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Why? If the goal is free make it simple and just use UrBackip.
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@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Why? If the goal is free make it simple and just use UrBackip.
The goal is to use ODfB as the target.
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Why? If the goal is free make it simple and just use UrBackip.
The goal is to use ODfB as the target.
But you can't use Veeam free for that. You stated just wrote a script for it. I'm saying don't writr a script and use something that scales and provides central management for free.
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@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Why? If the goal is free make it simple and just use UrBackip.
The goal is to use ODfB as the target.
But you can't use Veeam free for that. You stated just wrote a script for it. I'm saying don't writr a script and use something that scales and provides central management for free.
But scaling and stuff doesn't matter if it doesn't do the job, right?
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@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@dustinb3403 said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@scottalanmiller said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
Haven't tried it, but I suppose you could script a sort of backup to that location.
Why? If the goal is free make it simple and just use UrBackip.
The goal is to use ODfB as the target.
But you can't use Veeam free for that. You stated just wrote a script for it. I'm saying don't writr a script and use something that scales and provides central management for free.
But scaling and stuff doesn't matter if it doesn't do the job, right?
The issue at hand is the free Veeam agent can't target ODfB, you have to purchase a license.
You stated something along the lines of write a script so one could use ODfB as a target.
I'm saying that's a bad idea, it means custom scripts for multiple systems, no central management or any other major benefit, besides there being a backup.
Using UrBackup you'd have central management, remote restore functionality, remote backup run, scheduled backups etc.
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@dustinb3403 But can UrBackup target ODfB?
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@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
You can use Veeam Endpoint, but it does require a license to backup to ODfB. That is more of a premium feature. Otherwise, you're tied to some type of local storage, whether on your network or to your PC.
I was just giving an example of free software like Veeam, if it requires license, I will look for other free or cheaper option.
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I'm okay with backing up of only data, but would like to utilize ODfB space, to make secondary backup. Is it going to be like an alternative for cloud backup?
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Is ODfB really 1TB for each user?
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My core idea is to improve more backup options for few of our critical users and systems, by adding ODfB (cloud like) along with local.
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@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
My core idea is to improve more backup options for few of our critical users and systems, by adding ODfB (cloud like) along with local.
Your core idea is wrong because you are using a sync service as a backup, and that is not the intent.
Can you hack things to make it do it? Sure. But it will never be a reliable solution.
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I am currently evaluating ODFB as a backup tool for end user data (only their desktop and documents folder) c drive, accessing it via run etc blocked by group policy.
Testing 2 scenarios; moved desktop and documents to one drive location, so anything we save gets synced to ODFB automatically. Second is the basic ODFB setup and manually copying files to sync folder.
For OS we have master image so if a machine crashes, just restore back, and then sync back files from one drive. Works fine on my machine but having sync issues with another one.(Desktop & Documents redirect and sync) For him saving any documents takes longer time, ms office hangs etc.
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@jaredbusch said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
My core idea is to improve more backup options for few of our critical users and systems, by adding ODfB (cloud like) along with local.
Your core idea is wrong because you are using a sync service as a backup, and that is not the intent.
Can you hack things to make it do it? Sure. But it will never be a reliable solution.
I can understand how bad to use sync service as a backup. That's why I am here to put my plans and know possibilities, good and bad things.
Some of users never use OneDrive at all. What if I say, I will backup to OneDrive, where it is not used for syncing purpose, and backup software supports pushing data to OneDrive storage directly (if possible, is it??).....
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@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@jaredbusch said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
My core idea is to improve more backup options for few of our critical users and systems, by adding ODfB (cloud like) along with local.
Your core idea is wrong because you are using a sync service as a backup, and that is not the intent.
Can you hack things to make it do it? Sure. But it will never be a reliable solution.
I can understand how bad to use sync service as a backup. That's why I am here to put my plans and know possibilities, good and bad things.
Some of users never use OneDrive at all. What if I say, I will backup to OneDrive, where it is not used for syncing purpose, and backup software supports pushing data to OneDrive storage directly (if possible, is it??).....
Try using something else like Backblaze.
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@dbeato said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@jaredbusch said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
My core idea is to improve more backup options for few of our critical users and systems, by adding ODfB (cloud like) along with local.
Your core idea is wrong because you are using a sync service as a backup, and that is not the intent.
Can you hack things to make it do it? Sure. But it will never be a reliable solution.
I can understand how bad to use sync service as a backup. That's why I am here to put my plans and know possibilities, good and bad things.
Some of users never use OneDrive at all. What if I say, I will backup to OneDrive, where it is not used for syncing purpose, and backup software supports pushing data to OneDrive storage directly (if possible, is it??).....
Try using something else like Backblaze.
The likely issue with this is he already has a service which is providing space that is going unused. Adding another service would add costs.
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@openit said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
@nerdydad said in Is someone using OneDrive for Business 1TB space to backup data/system?:
You can use Veeam Endpoint, but it does require a license to backup to ODfB. That is more of a premium feature. Otherwise, you're tied to some type of local storage, whether on your network or to your PC.
I was just giving an example of free software like Veeam, if it requires license, I will look for other free or cheaper option.
Looks like Veeam free version supports backup to onedrive
https://www.veeam.com/windows-endpoint-server-backup-free.html
